Bundesliga review

[Ruhr]

1.FC Nürnberg 2-1 Bor. M´gladbach att 37,793
1:0 Simons (4.), 2:0 Pekhart (30.), 2:1 Herrmann (58.)

Bayer Leverkusen 2-3 Borussia Dortmund att.30,210
0:1 Reus (3.), 0:2 Blaszczykowski (9.), 1:2 Reinartz (58.), 2:2 Reinartz (62.), 2:3 Lewandowski (64.)
a top match as it should be

1 Bayern 51 51:7
2 Bor.Dortmund 39 46:22
3 Leverkusen 37 38:26

4 Etr.Frankfurt 36 38:31

5 FSV Mainz 05 30 27:24
6 FC Schalke 04 29 33:31

7 M'gladbach 29 28:29
8 SC Freiburg 28 25:20
9 Hamburger SV 28 22:26
10 Hannover 96 26 38:39
11 Werder 25 32:37
12 VfB Stuttgart 25 22:35
13 Düsseldorf 24 26:28
14 1.FC Nürnberg 24 20:27
15 VfL Wolfsburg 23 21:30

16 Hoffenheim 16 26:44

17 FC Augsburg 14 16:32
18 Greuther Fürth 12 13:34

 

[Rhineland]

Surely, Frankfurts ongoing success must be the biggest surprise of the season. I don't particulary like them, but it's sometimes good to see different unfancied clubs, who are capable of challenging the dominant positions of the usual suspects...

The title race is over before it really started, Dortmund, Leverkusen and Frankfurt will take the spots behind them (in a different order - who knows?)but there's an interesting dog fight with at least 8 clubs competing for the two EuroLeague spots.

With their recent wins both Düsseldorf and Nuremberg just look to be too good to get cought by any of the bottom three clubs and Wolfsburg unfortunately will also be too strong anyway.

Relegation is looming for Ho$$enheim, Augsburg and Fürth, despite their respective success on saturday. The Bundesliga won't really miss any of these bottom three, even more so with the prospect of promotion for Braunschweig, Hertha Berlin (most certainly) and maybe Kaiserslautern (or Cottbus, Union Berlin, 1860 Munich, Cologne whoever takes the play off spot - I'm not too sure about Ingolstadt, Aalen or FSV Frankfurt...), whose following would definitely further add to the league's attraction.

 

[Maldeika]

Surely, Frankfurts ongoing success must be the biggest surprise of the season. I don't particulary like them, but it's sometimes good to see different unfancied clubs, who are capable of challenging the dominant positions of the usual suspects...

The title race is over before it really started, Dortmund, Leverkusen and Frankfurt will take the spots behind them (in a different order - who knows?)but there's an interesting dog fight with at least 8 clubs competing for the two EuroLeague spots.

With their recent wins both Düsseldorf and Nuremberg just look to be too good to get cought by any of the bottom three clubs and Wolfsburg unfortunately will also be too strong anyway.

Relegation is looming for Ho$$enheim, Augsburg and Fürth, despite their respective success on saturday. The Bundesliga won't really miss any of these bottom three, even more so with the prospect of promotion for Braunschweig, Hertha Berlin (most certainly) and maybe Kaiserslautern (or Cottbus, Union Berlin, 1860 Munich, Cologne whoever takes the play off spot - I'm not too sure about Ingolstadt, Aalen or FSV Frankfurt...), whose following would definitely further add to the league's attraction.

Ok - seems you come from the western part of Germany. I would like Augsburg to stay in the Bundesliga.

 

[bayern blade]

Ok - seems you come from the western part of Germany. I would like Augsburg to stay in the Bundesliga.

I'd like Augsburg and Fürth top stop up and Ingolstadt to go up. Not bothered about Lautern, Sechzig or any of the DDR teams going up.

 

[DD]

Does anyone spot the irony about people complaining about people using new found wealth to buy success (i.e. Hoffenheim) on a Manchester City supporters forum? :)

 

[bayern blade]

Does anyone spot the irony about people complaining about people using new found wealth to buy success (i.e. Hoffenheim) on a Manchester City supporters forum? :)

I've no arguments with Hoffenheim. Dietmar Hopp is a lifelong Hoffenheim supporter and if he wants to put his money into the club he has always supported I think that is fine.

 

[NipHolmes]

Does anyone spot the irony about people complaining about people using new found wealth to buy success (i.e. Hoffenheim) on a Manchester City supporters forum? :)

I've no arguments with Hoffenheim. Dietmar Hopp is a lifelong Hoffenheim supporter and if he wants to put his money into the club he has always supported I think that is fine.

You can't pick and choose when convenient. Fair play to the guy, fair play to any owner buying a team with good intentions.

 

[bayern blade]

You can't pick and choose when convenient. Fair play to the guy, fair play to any owner buying a team with good intentions.

I do think there is a difference between a fan putting money into his own club and a foreign billionaire such as at City, Chelsea, PSG etc buying a club as a plaything/investment/whatever. Whether or not there is a legal or moral difference is open to interpretation or viewpoint I agree.

 

[Dzeko's Right Boot]

Does anyone spot the irony about people complaining about people using new found wealth to buy success (i.e. Hoffenheim) on a Manchester City supporters forum? :)

I've no arguments with Hoffenheim. Dietmar Hopp is a lifelong Hoffenheim supporter and if he wants to put his money into the club he has always supported I think that is fine.

You can't pick and choose when convenient. Fair play to the guy, fair play to any owner buying a team with good intentions.

Why can't he? Every situation at every club is different.

 

[Maldeika]

Does anyone spot the irony about people complaining about people using new found wealth to buy success (i.e. Hoffenheim) on a Manchester City supporters forum? :)

The difference is the systems both clubs are build in. In the EPL a lot clubs (all?) have private owners. So the only special about City and Chelsea are the amounts that get invested - not that there is an investment by owners.

Do you have a club culture in England like the one we have in Germany? In Germany it is said that whereever two or three persons meet together they form a club. In my town with about 7000 inhabitants there is more than 50 clubs. 2 football clubs, some sports clubs, 4 different choirs (a man choir, 2 mixed ones and a church choir), a fishing club... - there is a club that connects all clubs in town for special events...
Each of the clubs has a president, a second president, a writer, somebody to take care of the finances etc. - some have built club houses together etc.