Burnley - Post match thread

Having finally had the chance to watch the brief highlights I must say it was very stupid of Fernandinho to go in like that. There was no immediate danger of very much IMO. Still no red card. Yellow would have been enough. Had it been a rag player he wouldn't even have gotten a yellow. How many times have we seen Wooney do these dangerous tackles and nothing happened.
 
You can complain via website, search for complaints on BBC.co.uk, I have done this previously :-)
I am fed up.
Does anybody know anything about how to automate this? And anything about twitter bots? I know fuck all, but I think I understand that it is possible to affect the public opinion this way. I wish some clever guy would sit down and do some pro-City bots and some catch-the-anti-City-twats bots. I offer my help and financial support for such an undertaking.
 
a win is a win, but perhaps i need to wobble my head a bit cos every result, win lose or draw, leaves me feeling a bit hollow and frustrated.

seriously though, loads of effort yesterday which was great and a brilliant effort with a man down and Mason officiating. But the quality is severely fluctuating between very good and very very bad.

onwards.
 
From the BBC match report:

Burnley have only won a single point away from Turf Moor this season, but they can count themselves unlucky not to follow their October draw at Old Trafford with similar on their return to Manchester.

While they confounded United with a stubborn rearguard action, Sean Dyche's side went toe-to-toe with City even before Fernandinho's red card gave them an extra man.

Mee's goal, awarded with help by the decision review system, exposed goalkeeper Claudio Bravo's uncertainty in the air, but Burnley created enough to take a point without City's errors.

The link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38433598
 
At Least Martin Keown saw the foul by Vokes on Bravo, who had his arm up into Bravo's face leading to the goal.

Did he ?

I saw the Sky version & noticed it immediately, unlike the commentators or Alan fucking Curbishly.

Tbh, whether Bravo should have done better, maybe he still should, but that's not the fucking point. The point is, we watch football week in week out, we see a ball come in, someone farts near a keeper & it's a free kick. Often just jumping close to a keeper is enough for them to drop the ball & the ref gives them a free pass. If he doesn't, they moan at him.

Suddenly, we have Manchester City, down to ten men, playing vs a team who have one chance in the game: lump it & head it. So the fucking referee, suddenly decides anything goes in the six yard box, as applying the fucking rules, would effectively finish Burnley off in the game. So their player is allowed to punch our goalkeeper in the mouth as he comes for the ball.

In 99 out of 100 games, a ref would give a free kick for that 'just in case'. In this instance, the bloke swings his arm toward Bravo's face, clear as day, & nothing is given.

If Bravo should have done better, fair enough, so should Joe & many other keepers we have seen drop the ball in similar circumstances, but to allow that assault to take place then, lest we forget, he also allowed the 2nd instance where the bloke headed it out of his hands, Nat Lofthouse style, as he couldn't have known in that instant, which attempt went over the line.

It fucking stinks.
 
Did he ?

I saw the Sky version & noticed it immediately, unlike the commentators or Alan fucking Curbishly.

Tbh, whether Bravo should have done better, maybe he still should, but that's not the fucking point. The point is, we watch football week in week out, we see a ball come in, someone farts near a keeper & it's a free kick. Often just jumping close to a keeper is enough for them to drop the ball & the ref gives them a free pass. If he doesn't, they moan at him.

Suddenly, we have Manchester City, down to ten men, playing vs a team who have one chance in the game: lump it & head it. So the fucking referee, suddenly decides anything goes in the six yard box, as applying the fucking rules, would effectively finish Burnley off in the game. So their player is allowed to punch our goalkeeper in the mouth as he comes for the ball.

In 99 out of 100 games, a ref would give a free kick for that 'just in case'. In this instance, the bloke swings his arm toward Bravo's face, clear as day, & nothing is given.

If Bravo should have done better, fair enough, so should Joe & many other keepers we have seen drop the ball in similar circumstances, but to allow that assault to take place then, lest we forget, he also allowed the 2nd instance where the bloke headed it out of his hands, Nat Lofthouse style, as he couldn't have known in that instant, which attempt went over the line.

It fucking stinks.

I think we're all pretty much in agreement how much it all stinks. I thought Bravo was superb yesterday, many great saves and was confident. The goal was quite simply a foul on Bravo. He couldn't reach the first ball while jumping with a players arm in his neck/face.

For what it's worth I didn't see Dhinos tackle as a red card and it was certainly no worse than the one on KdB
 
I think we're all pretty much in agreement how much it all stinks. I thought Bravo was superb yesterday, many great saves and was confident. The goal was quite simply a foul on Bravo. He couldn't reach the first ball while jumping with a players arm in his neck/face.

For what it's worth I didn't see Dhinos tackle as a red card and it was certainly no worse than the one on KdB

Fernandiho's tackle is a red card if the ref follows the letter of the law. So he took the opportunity to do so, on that one occasion.

He will book a rag or Liverpool player for a similar offence, in the coming season(s), just watch.
 
Fernandiho's tackle is a red card if the ref follows the letter of the law. So he took the opportunity to do so, on that one occasion.

He will book a rag or Liverpool player for a similar offence, in the coming season(s), just watch.

It's only my view. To me he played the ball first and wasn't completely out of control so it was yellow. Stupid, yes. My point was really if this was a red card why was the same kind of tackle on KdB not a red?
 
It's only my view. To me he played the ball first and wasn't completely out of control so it was yellow. Stupid, yes. My point was really if this was a red card why was the same kind of tackle on KdB not a red?

There is the problem.

Pretty much all of our rivals have been guilty of multiple red card offences in recent times & we are the only club being punished.
 
Did he ?

I saw the Sky version & noticed it immediately, unlike the commentators or Alan fucking Curbishly.

Tbh, whether Bravo should have done better, maybe he still should, but that's not the fucking point. The point is, we watch football week in week out, we see a ball come in, someone farts near a keeper & it's a free kick. Often just jumping close to a keeper is enough for them to drop the ball & the ref gives them a free pass. If he doesn't, they moan at him.

Suddenly, we have Manchester City, down to ten men, playing vs a team who have one chance in the game: lump it & head it. So the fucking referee, suddenly decides anything goes in the six yard box, as applying the fucking rules, would effectively finish Burnley off in the game. So their player is allowed to punch our goalkeeper in the mouth as he comes for the ball.

In 99 out of 100 games, a ref would give a free kick for that 'just in case'. In this instance, the bloke swings his arm toward Bravo's face, clear as day, & nothing is given.

If Bravo should have done better, fair enough, so should Joe & many other keepers we have seen drop the ball in similar circumstances, but to allow that assault to take place then, lest we forget, he also allowed the 2nd instance where the bloke headed it out of his hands, Nat Lofthouse style, as he couldn't have known in that instant, which attempt went over the line.

It fucking stinks.
WTF was Silva doing in there also, blooming twighlight zone material
 
WTF was Silva doing in there also, blooming twighlight zone material

One thing Pep has vastly improved over all previous managers, (well, his coaches have) is getting everyone involved defending this shit, no matter their size or previous record in those situations.

Mike Dean even changed the rules because we were doing such a good job keeping Stoke out, by penalising Sterling for having his hands raised when Shawcross tried to push him over.
 
I might be wrong, but I don't recall us getting a single freekick while the ball was in the air until stoppage time, despite them doing the standard hoof, back in and wrestle tactics you expect from most British managers. It's the same every game we play, our tiny attackers get repeatedly called for fouls in the air, our defenders do if they fight back, but the opposition is allowed to wrestle away to their hearts content as they know the referee won't give anything. Leicester was the most obvious, all season they'd struggled with set pieces because they know they can't just wrestle like last season, but when it came to us they knew they would be allowed to get away with it so just took the piss.
 
There is the problem.

Pretty much all of our rivals have been guilty of multiple red card offences in recent times & we are the only club being punished.
You're absolutely right. I think the Kun witch hunt for tickling a chin in comparison to multiple reckless incidents with other teams players was the start of my current disgust and anger at the continuous refereeing decisions and the anti city media. This is a whole new level
 

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