Can we afford to let Barry go?

Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
He isn't the answer....

Problem is the answer may now have to wait until January!
Maybe. I'm still of the opinion we should move to a 4-3-3. Would solve a lot of ills.
 
taconinja said:
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
He isn't the answer....

Problem is the answer may now have to wait until January!
Maybe. I'm still of the opinion we should move to a 4-3-3. Would solve a lot of ills.

I agree about going 4-3-3 but that could mean playing only one of Aguero, Negredo and Dzeko; unless Kun will play out wide. I would like to see how a front three Jovetic, Aguero and Navas fares.
 
OB1 said:
taconinja said:
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
He isn't the answer....

Problem is the answer may now have to wait until January!
Maybe. I'm still of the opinion we should move to a 4-3-3. Would solve a lot of ills.

I agree about going 4-3-3 but that could mean playing only one of Aguero, Negredo and Dzeko; unless Kun will play out wide. I would like to see how a front three Jovetic, Aguero and Navas fares.
Aguero seems to play fairly well to the left and switching central. I think Negredo and Jovetic would both be willing to play that kind of role, too. Dzeko is best used in a very central position, though. Not saying it couldn't work with him, though.
 
Think its a huge mistake if he is sold....

It is cleat that a midfield duo of yaya and ferd doesnt work....infact I think many on here would have predicted that so I'm nit sure why pellers is,doing it but that's another argument.

If yaya and ferd are going to play then there must be a third midfielder in there....that player is,either Barry or rodwell. Garcia just isn't good enough. It's either that or buy a replacementwhivh is highly unlikely at this point in the transfer window.

Of course this is going to lead to playing with onlyone sticker unless he is going to drop Silva or navas.

Interesting to see how jovetic fits into all this as well, but at the moment the balance in midfield is completely wrong and it will cost us more pointsif the manager continues with it especially against stronger opposition
 
MP has had enough chances to look & clearly is not impressed by Barry. If he cannot get in the squad for Cardiff or Hull it is difficult to see where he will figure. Unless we are keeping him in case we draw Accrington in the FA Cup. Definitely would not get in against Wigan as we all remember how he cost us the final in May.
So the answer is YES.
 
Aytoun said:
MP has had enough chances to look & clearly is not impressed by Barry. If he cannot get in the squad for Cardiff or Hull it is difficult to see where he will figure. Unless we are keeping him in case we draw Accrington in the FA Cup. Definitely would not get in against Wigan as we all remember how he cost us the final in May.
So the answer is YES.
wow first he cost us the southampton game now the cup final !! the 2 games i watched we were shit to a man and deserved to lose both .looking back maybe we didnt play our part as fans chanting for a manager who was clearly disliked by the players but its only come to light since.maybe we should have got behind the team like we did at the semi ?
 
Aytoun said:
MP has had enough chances to look & clearly is not impressed by Barry. If he cannot get in the squad for Cardiff or Hull it is difficult to see where he will figure. Unless we are keeping him in case we draw Accrington in the FA Cup. Definitely would not get in against Wigan as we all remember how he cost us the final in May.
So the answer is YES.

Personally I think the decision to get rid of Barry is more down to Txiki than Pellegrini and its more to do with the wage bill than football.
 
BobKowalski said:
Aytoun said:
MP has had enough chances to look & clearly is not impressed by Barry. If he cannot get in the squad for Cardiff or Hull it is difficult to see where he will figure. Unless we are keeping him in case we draw Accrington in the FA Cup. Definitely would not get in against Wigan as we all remember how he cost us the final in May.
So the answer is YES.

Personally I think the decision to get rid of Barry is more down to Txiki than Pellegrini and its more to do with the wage bill than football.

The decision does make sense purely financially unless the rumours of a loan with us paying 40% of his wages are true. At that point you have to ask whether saving £60,000 a week is preferable to having the option of Barry in the squad. In my opinion it's not.
 
In Europe I don't think we can rely on Barry, but in the PL we need him for certain situations, mainly away games.

I don't know what it is with the English PL and foreigners in away games, but without a good set of English lads in your team on the road results are very hard to grind out.
 
sam-caddick said:
In Europe I don't think we can rely on Barry, but in the PL we need him for certain situations, mainly away games.

I don't know what it is with the English PL and foreigners in away games, but without a good set of English lads in your team on the road results are very hard to grind out.
Agreed, he could play a 'Dietmar Hamann' role as a sub in shoring things up towards the end of a game when we're one up.Depends if he's happy playing in that role.<br /><br />-- Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:49 pm --<br /><br />
bluethunder said:
we should not let him go.

rodwell should go on loan.
WTF?
Rodwell can be a big squad player for us this season. He has high energy levels - something we're missing at the moment.
 
Len Rum said:
sam-caddick said:
In Europe I don't think we can rely on Barry, but in the PL we need him for certain situations, mainly away games.

I don't know what it is with the English PL and foreigners in away games, but without a good set of English lads in your team on the road results are very hard to grind out.
Agreed, he could play a 'Dietmar Hamann' role as a sub in shoring things up towards the end of a game when we're one up.Depends if he's happy playing in that role.

-- Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:49 pm --

bluethunder said:
we should not let him go.

rodwell should go on loan.
WTF?
Rodwell can be a big squad player for us this season. He has high energy levels - something we're missing at the moment.

True, but in my opinion if he wants to remain at a top 4 club and challenge for honours he might have to do stuff like that now, otherswise he will end up playing mid-table.

I don't think he is good enough to play week in week out and go for titles and cl's, but for away game starts appearances we need to keep Barry

He might want to be playing every week, but I am sure at his age trying to win honours are more important.
 
DiscoSteve said:
if he goes to Everton even on loan then that will make it easier for Everton to let Baines and Mophead go to the rags

They're lining up McCarthy from Wigan to replace Fellaini.

Barry to Everton will only go through if we sub Barry's wages...........Everton can't afford to pay them. Else Barry drop his salary demands
 
This saga confuses me. For footballing reasons, playing in 4 competitions, there is no logic in letting a player like Gareth Barry leave at this time.

But I suspect there may be some transfer deadline day shenanigans to come that might put a different slant on things.
 
Let him go is my view. I think the other options offer us more in the longterm. He done well but up at the highest level in European football he was found out and lacking. So time to move him on. We have a few players who can fit into the midfield be it Milner , Rodwell or Garcia if the 2 main stays are out or injured.
Time to move on with a new manager new tatics and new players are the norm and will always happen.
 

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