Canal Street Blues LGBT Supporters Group 2014

[Bodicoteblue]

Accusing who of doing what???

Nice touch though, adding a nasty personal comment on what should be a positive thread.
*thumbs up*

I'm sorry it read that way - I was referring to someone else in this thread , not you .
I agree entirely with you .

if your referring to my post, which part of it is homophobic. pray tell



r.soleofsalford wrote:
can just say i`m straight and 61 years old.


i accept people for who and what they are but i dont need to know if the bloke or woman sat next to me is straight or gay or wanks furiously to old newsreel footage of margret thatcher.


i just dont understand the need for a person to broadcast to the world their sexual orientation, what happens behind their bedroom door at night between two or three consenting adults is of no concern to me.

At no point did I say that you or your views were homophobic , I did say there was an element of hypocrisy though.
You said that you didn't understand why people broadcast to the world " their sexual orientation" but you jumped at the chance to broadcast your founding membership of the , albeit fictional , " illiterate shit- stirrers" branch of the supporters club. If you want to start such a grouping and proclaim your affiliation to it , fine , but it makes you just the same as anyone who is broadcasting their sexuality. I don't want to know if the bloke or woman sat next to me is illiterate or a shit-stirrer any more than you want to know their sexuality, but if they it makes them feel better , then that is not a problem to me.
My point is that everyone is as entitled to be a member of whichever group they want (as long as it's legal) and everyone is entitled to voice disapproval and be critical of those groups but to disapprove of someone's behaviour and then do exactly the same thing is hypocritical

 

[Helmet Cole]

Straws well and truly being clutched at there.

 

[dobobobo]

Accusing who of doing what???

Nice touch though, adding a nasty personal comment on what should be a positive thread.
*thumbs up*

I'm sorry it read that way - I was referring to someone else in this thread , not you .
I agree entirely with you .

if your referring to my post, which part of it is homophobic. pray tell



r.soleofsalford wrote:
can just say i`m straight and 61 years old.


i accept people for who and what they are but i dont need to know if the bloke or woman sat next to me is straight or gay or wanks furiously to old newsreel footage of margret thatcher.


i just dont understand the need for a person to broadcast to the world their sexual orientation, what happens behind their bedroom door at night between two or three consenting adults is of no concern to me.

Then why are you bothered by a Man City LGBT supporters group?

 

[Bodicoteblue]

I'm sorry it read that way - I was referring to someone else in this thread , not you .
I agree entirely with you .

if your referring to my post, which part of it is homophobic. pray tell



r.soleofsalford wrote:
can just say i`m straight and 61 years old.


i accept people for who and what they are but i dont need to know if the bloke or woman sat next to me is straight or gay or wanks furiously to old newsreel footage of margret thatcher.


i just dont understand the need for a person to broadcast to the world their sexual orientation, what happens behind their bedroom door at night between two or three consenting adults is of no concern to me.

Then why are you bothered by a Man City LGBT supporters group?

I don't think that this he/ she is specifically bothered about them being LGBT , I suspect that, as he/she has admitted to being 61 years old ( not many years older than I am) that he has a generational mindset that is uncomfortable with any expression of sexuality.
My gripe is not whether he/she is homophobic - that is between them and their conscience - and is a view to which they are entitled , unless it encourages homophobic violence, as long as they are willing to accept criticism of that view, as much as they are willing to hand out criticism . I just don't like double standards.

 

[Helmet Cole]

Surely anyone who doesn't think the LGBT group is great and openly supports it is being homophobic? Tacit support is as good as no support IMHO. The very least we can do is wear rainbow socks or something.

 

[Blue Is the Opposite of Blue]

I'm fully in support of this movement. An LGBT Supporters' Group is a refreshing addition to our fanbase and is needed in exactly the same way as the Gay Pride parades are.

For those worried about a LGBT Supporters' Group "shoving it in your face", understand that Canal Street Blues has been set up to help football supporters learn to love each other and accept each other in football stadiums across the world, not to "be in your face". Casual homophobia and transphobia (as well as sexism) are rife in society and even more so in football stadiums - so much so that some people think there's no problem. This is exactly why LGBT Supporters' Groups like Canal Street Blues need to be set up and recognised as legitimate and important movements.

Congratulations on the success you're having, John. I wish you all the luck for the future in both football stadiums and in life. Because of my sexuality, skin colour and gender I am born with a default privilege I'm almost ashamed to have because of how other heterosexual, white, males behave towards people who aren't born with the same default privileges. If there's any way I can help in the way of donations or finding more members I'd be eager to contribute any way I can! The only way to reach equality is through positive integration, and together we can all achieve that - starting now.

GOOD LUCK.

 

[shazzell]

I'm fully in support of this movement. An LGBT Supporters' Group is a refreshing addition to our fanbase and is needed in exactly the same way as the Gay Pride parades are.

For those worried about a LGBT Supporters' Group "shoving it in your face", understand that Canal Street Blues has been set up to help football supporters learn to love each other and accept each other in football stadiums across the world, not to "be in your face". Casual homophobia and transphobia (as well as sexism) are rife in society and even more so in football stadiums - so much so that some people think there's no problem. This is exactly why LGBT Supporters' Groups like Canal Street Blues need to be set up and recognised as legitimate and important movements.

Congratulations on the success you're having, John. I wish you all the luck for the future in both football stadiums and in life. Because of my sexuality, skin colour and gender I am born with a default privilege I'm almost ashamed to have because of how other heterosexual, white, males behave towards people who aren't born with the same default privileges. If there's any way I can help in the way of donations or finding more members I'd be eager to contribute any way I can! The only way to reach equality is through positive integration, and together we can all achieve that - starting now.

GOOD LUCK.

+1.


Great post.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

Surely anyone who doesn't think the LGBT group is great and openly supports it is being homophobic? Tacit support is as good as no support IMHO. The very least we can do is wear rainbow socks or something.

It doesn't have to be supported - it just has to be accepted

 

[BigJimLittleJim]

Best of luck Blues, welcome to the new branch and it's members :)

 

[1961_vintage]

The very least we can do is wear rainbow socks or something.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The very least we can do is wear rainbow socks or something.

That picture has filled my heart with sorrow. Until a minute ago I thought Zippy was a real person.

 

[1961_vintage]

The very least we can do is wear rainbow socks or something.

That picture has filled my heart with sorrow. Until a minute ago I thought Zippy was a real person.

Don't be daft - of course he is a real person, silly.

This was just a random promotional photo-shoot where Zips happened to have a man inside him.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

That picture has filled my heart with sorrow. Until a minute ago I thought Zippy was a real person.

Don't be daft - of course he is a real person, silly.

This was just a random promotional photo-shoot where Zips happened to have a man inside him.

That man has something of the Yewtree about him.

 

[johnbmcr]

That's a plastic zippy cannot even get the fur tone right typical city fans !

 

[Always Ali]

The very least we can do is wear rainbow socks or something.

That picture has filled my heart with sorrow. Until a minute ago I thought Zippy was a real person.

He is real, he got arrested and thrown out at the Charity Shield v Chelsea at Villa Park a couple of years back!

 

[johnbmcr]

That picture has filled my heart with sorrow. Until a minute ago I thought Zippy was a real person.

He is real, he got arrested and thrown out at the Charity Shield v Chelsea at Villa Park a couple of years back!

he must have gone on to to be a internet fashion model then like andy coulson he's had a 2nd chance
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[Helmet Cole]

Perfectly sensible thread about a supporters club based on members sexuality being bungled by a load of twats in zippy costumes *shakes head*

 

[dobobobo]

Perfectly sensible thread about a supporters club based on members sexuality being bungled by a load of twats in zippy costumes *shakes head*

Keeps the thread visible for those who come one Blue Moon every now than then.

 

[1961_vintage]

Perfectly sensible thread about a supporters club based on members sexuality being bungled by a load of twats in zippy costumes *shakes head*

Totally right Helmet - fucks me off when people attempt to distract us from enjoying a perfectly sensible thread by posting pictures of a character from a 1970's children's TV programme. Puerile and not at all amusing.

Hopefully it won't put people off from wishing all the very best to the Canal Street Blues.

 

[A Badger Is Not A Beaver]

Accusing who of doing what???

Nice touch though, adding a nasty personal comment on what should be a positive thread.
*thumbs up*

I'm sorry it read that way - I was referring to someone else in this thread , not you .
I agree entirely with you .

if your referring to my post, which part of it is homophobic. pray tell



r.soleofsalford wrote:
can just say i`m straight and 61 years old.


i accept people for who and what they are but i dont need to know if the bloke or woman sat next to me is straight or gay or wanks furiously to old newsreel footage of margret thatcher.


i just dont understand the need for a person to broadcast to the world their sexual orientation, what happens behind their bedroom door at night between two or three consenting adults is of no concern to me.

Imagine if you will that you are part of a minority.
A persecuted minority.
Persecuted for your colour.
Everywhere you are belittled and derided for your colour.
You are abused in the press, on the tv, on the streets, at work, even by people you would otherwise call friends.
But you are proud of your colour; no matter how much society tells you you are less than others you keep the faith. You know that your colour is something to be proud of. Your colour is just as good, if not better, than the other more numerous colours.
You band together with other members of your colour in solidarity.
Sometimes you meet your comrades in a safe place where you are all of one colour. These are special times; times when you can celebrate the joys of being your colour; times when you can let your guard down and exchange stories of humiliation and abuse perpetrated by the many. Somehow knowing others are with you makes it easier to take the hurt.
Sometimes you meet and sing songs of pride and battle. Celebrating your colour. You do this in public, sometimes in places where you know everyone is not of your colour.
You do this to show you will not be cowed.
You do this to show you will not change - no matter the forces of oppression arrayed against, you will keep the faith.
Some of your colour, your tribe, are weaker than you.
They stay quiet, they grumble in secret, they drift away. The weakest even disavow the true path and change their colour.
But not you, you are strong. You keep the faith. You are loud and proud.
On a special day you will wear your colours.
You will go where you are most hated.
You wil go where you are most reviled.
You will go to their temple and sing of your pride whilst they laugh at you.
You will go to their pubs and you will wear your colour and you will stand tall no matter the abuse.
Some were weaker.
Some bowed but you kept the faith through all the years in the wilderness. Your colour existed and you rubbed it in their faces.

Your colour was Blue.
You were a persecuted minority.
You went into work after defeat after defeat to face them, you didn't duck out.
You went into work after they won trophy after trophy, you didn't hide.
You told people who you were and you stood up.
You wore Blue with pride.

If you can't understand other minorities wanting to:-
A) let the majority know the exist
B) have a group where they can have a drink with no knobs about

Then words fail me.