CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

[domalino]

not me and likely Swiss not European law but statutes of limitation exist in every territory. This idea that this is some odd quirk Of FFP or UEFA is typically laughable

Is there a practical reason for them being there in terms of enforcement? If UEFA responded to this by removing their limitation, or FFP 2.0 had a 15 year limitation, would that difference between Swiss law/UEFA rules make it impossible to enforce?

Or did they just think, "if it's good enough for Swiss law, it's good enough for us" when drafting it?

 

[DrBlueBob]

Thought he was entitled to call Durham out on that occasion.

He didn't just call him out, he offered him out. Fair play to Durham for fronting it up.

 

[OrigamiNinja]

I don’t normally head over to opposition fan sites because I just find myself wanting to go on a murder spree. I did however just take a look on RAWK and came across this gem:

“Every club has the opportunity to grow their revenues and built the kind of club that can challenge. A wealthy owner can buy a big stadium and make enough money to win things. It's what Leicester have done.”

Not a single person on there has called this tit out and told him that Leicester failed FFP and paid a settlement.

I think we are actually at a point where when people talk about FFP they only relate it to two clubs, City and PSG. Nobody is arsed about FFP if clubs go bust and out of existence. Nobody is arsed about FFP if a club is £500m in debt yet is spending £100m+ in a transfer window. Nobody is even arsed about FFP if a club fails it, as long as that club isn’t City or PSG.

We said 10 years ago that FFP only purpose was to stop us, we were told we were paranoid. Bollocks, we aren’t even allowed to comply with FFP.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Leicester failed the football league version in getting promoted, like many sides who've gone all in to get to the PL.

 

[OrigamiNinja]

Leicester failed the football league version in getting promoted, like many sides who've gone all in to get to the PL.

I get that but they then when on to win the Prem, when it could have been argued they shouldn’t have been in the division. Where was the media backlash? Where were the rival fans demanding they be stripped of their title? Nowhere. Instead it was a fairytale story that we should all embrace.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I get that but they then when on to win the Prem, when it could have been argued they shouldn’t have been in the division. Where was the media backlash? Where were the rival fans demanding they be stripped of their title? Nowhere. Instead it was a fairytale story that we should all embrace.

I can see your point, but I think there's a difference when it's comparing 2 competitions..

The backlash on league clubs who succeed in being promoted tends to come when they get relegated again - like QPR, although that was as much for trying to ignore the whole thing.

Mostly of course, FFP is being used as a weapon against City, not in support of FFP itself.

 

[DrBlueBob]

Leicester failed the football league version in getting promoted, like many sides who've gone all in to get to the PL.

To be fair, it kind of worked out for them.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

To be fair, it kind of worked out for them.

Certainly did.

Their fans are livid about VAR in the last week, and are looking forward to being screwed over in the last match of the season.

 

[The Colonel]

I’ve had a few exchanges on Twitter, nothing vitriolic, but the one thing that is common is their refusal to acknowledge any possibility that they may be wrong although when you school them, they shut down. Here’s an example.

“City are not a club with any heritage yet they act like one. Their success is entirely off the money given by a country, and in order to invest in them a lot of bogus companies have been used for the purpose of making this look legitimate.”

I put him right and asked about bogus companies.

“As for bogus companies weren’t there ghost companies found that were in fact owned by City’s owners? If everything they have done is legal, why have they been caught twice breaching the rules? Nothing you or anyone can say will ever be able to get around that.”
...
“As for Guardiola asking for an apology that sums the whole club up from top to bottom.”

well there you go. He didn’t want to exchange any further.

 

[old blue]

Thought he was entitled to call Durham out on that occasion.

I was just highlighting the hypocrisy of Carragher. He railed against a perceived injustice but it was only verbal and not subject to a European arbitration hearing.Referring to his article, I always try to imagine the subject actually saying the words but in this instance I have failed miserably.