CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

King KdB of Belgium said:
There is only one way to shut these guys up. That is to take the lot of them to court. Then sue them for all the money that they have. For me I would start with Jurgen Klopp, plus Livarpool F.C. as well. Livarpool as Jurgen Klopp 's employe, they should have told him to keep is mouth shut and say nothing about the CAS verdict.

After that then go after the Arsenal F.C.. Then one by one of the papers. Finally go after the head of the Spanish F.A. senor Tebas. If some of the individuals nd up bankrupt so be it.

At this stage even a full and frank apology would not do. These guys need to be made to pay and the damages that they have to pay must hurt them in their own pocket. That is the only way they will learn not to do it again.
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you don’t need to do that.

we should just select one or two of them..but the biggest voices, and absolutely ruin them.
do it convincingly and comprehensively and we will never have another issue.

same approach should be taken with a media outlet. Select the largest or most prolific and absolutely fucking ruin then.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
Gary Neville is, along with Souness and Martin Samuel, the most objective pundit to be found in the English media. City are not spotless paragons of virtue but since 2008 we have unquestionably been a force for good in the English and European game and the best run club in domestic football. The three wise men whose names began this post have been the only ones who have given City fair credit for this. Gary Neville has always opposed FFP and was one of the first to attack UEFA when they "disciplined" City in 2014 ("Unbelievable! The obligation to make a profit!" was his tweet, if I remember correctly.) He has never wavered from his opposition to FF and UEFA or his support for City on the matter. He has certainly wanted to see Salford City invest and progress - just as City's owners wanted to see us progress between 2008 and 2012. But we don't accuse City of ditching the principle of investment now the club is expected to live within its means as an act of policy and not a surrender to FFP. If Neville agrees with the right to invest at least he is consistent, arguing that at Blackburn, Chelsea, City and United in the past it has been good for the game. He wants clubs to be allowed to invest in the future to be able to challenge those recently successful in the game and that seems scarcely relevant to Salford at the moment.

This leaves Fernandinho. When Neville first claimed that Ferna was a "master of the dark arts" it was one comment in a eulogy of his many and varied skills. Mastery of the dark arts was simply one in a battery of skills anyone playing in his position needed and to Neville it was essential. He argued that all the great players had had it and he named a string of them, one of whom was Roy Keane. Ferna certainly has a cynical element in his game and I think he is simply better than anyone else because he knows exactly when to use it. He's not the only cynic but he's certainly better at it than the rest. The trouble is that other pundits picked out what suited them from Neville's analysis (a trick they have repeated many times, most recently with CAS decision and then with Pep's "disrespectful" remarks about Arsenal) and painted Ferna as the innovator of a uniquely cynical and dishonest way of playing.
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Good post. Neville is the best pundit with Souness. They have no agenda and speak honestly.
 
Cobwebcat said:
I didn't realise SWFC are going though a similar thing that we did. A negative verdict followed by a point deduction could see them relegated. Hope they prevail.
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Yeah, I heard a bit about this off a Wednesday fan back in March when we played them in the FA Cup. Can’t say I know the ins and outs but it revolves around them selling the stadium for £60 million (to the owners I think) and they’re being accused of selling it at above fair value. If it’s deemed to be at an inflated price, the fair value is applied and depending on how big their losses are, it could lead to a points deduction of 9 points or more. A further points deduction could be applied if they’re found not to have assisted the EFL in their investigation (sound familiar?). The mad thing is that apparently the EFL encourages this type of deal as they changed the rules a few years ago to allow it, but it has to be at fair value. How do you apply a fair value to a football stadium though? Wednesday are a big club and if they got moving in the right direction and got to the Premier League then £60 million would be a bargain IMO.
 
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After UEFA'S defeat by CAS. Does anyone agree that there is no way that UEFA, will let us win the Champions League. After all they do need to win one battle against us.
 
DenisLawBackHeel74 said:
you don’t need to do that.

we should just select one or two of them..but the biggest voices, and absolutely ruin them.
do it convincingly and comprehensively and we will never have another issue.

same approach should be taken with a media outlet. Select the largest or most prolific and absolutely fucking ruin then.
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Crowd Funding???
 
King KdB of Belgium said:
After UEFA'S defeat by CAS. Does anyone agree that there is no way that UEFA, will let us win the Champions League. After all they do need to win one battle against us.
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Totally agree, UEFA will only ever let one of their cartel clubs get to the final. You only have to look at last years farce with us v spuds. Then spuds get to the final and forget to turn up, poorest final Ive ever had the misfortune to watch.
 
Big Ellens Bell said:
Totally agree, UEFA will only ever let one of their cartel clubs get to the final. You only have to look at last years farce with us v spuds. Then spuds get to the final and forget to turn up, poorest final Ive ever had the misfortune to watch.
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Not to mention the previous season against the dippers...I was almost as apoplectic as Pep!!
 
M18CTID said:
Yeah, I heard a bit about this off a Wednesday fan back in March when we played them in the FA Cup. Can’t say I know the ins and outs but it revolves around them selling the stadium for £60 million (to the owners I think) and and they’re being accused of selling it at above fair value. If it’s deemed to be at an inflated price, the fair value is applied and depending on how big their losses are, it could lead to a points deduction of 9 points or more. A further points deduction could be applied if they’re found not to have assisted the EFL in their investigation (sound familiar?). The mad thing is that apparently the EFL encourages this type of deal as they changed the rules a few years ago to allow it, but it has to be at fair value. How do you apply a fair value to a football stadium though? Wednesday are a big club and if they got moving in the right direction and got to the Premier League then £60 million would be a bargain IMO.
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Surely stadiums have limited value in that there are only so many tenants available the current football club in theory other football clubs but this is not america. They could be used as arenas The other option is they can be knocked down but that would not be popular and would destroy there most of the value and mean spending money to redevelop
 
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