Cavani & Falcao

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LoveCity said:
bapi said:
Napoli is 2nd in Seria A and I still remember our matches against them last season. However that team is build around him and it will be different when he'll join any club with other 2 or 3 top strikers. Also Napoli's counter-attack system with 3-5-2 in a slow league is very different to EPL and his performances in Uruguay shirt are awful.

Don't you think our club will have extensively considered whether he'll be able to adapt to a system that doesn't utilise counter attacking much before paying a club transfer record (if we do)? I'm sure after some past transfers it will be very carefully considered.

Also, not all of his goals are counter attacks. 2 of his 3 goals against us were not counter attacks nor was his goal against Chelsea. That is 3 of his 4 goals against two of England's best teams that weren't counter attacking goals. Only his first against us was a counter attacking goal (and a sublime one at that).

Again we bought Dzeko so this notion of consideration should be taken with a grain of salt. Yes he scored 3 non counter attacking goals is a that a good enough sample size to spend 40+ million on a striker and what if he goes bust (funding him means selling dzeko probably) then where really fucked. Also i really believe our problems have nothing to do with the strikers for its the pace and the way we deliver it more then anything. so we need to be looking for midfielders and a good left back more then anything (banes would be fantastic)
 
BlueMoonz1977 said:
According to reports this morning we have put in a initial bid of £40m for Falcao :-

According to the Sunday People, sporting director Txiki Begiristain has begun negotiations in a possible £40m move.

Falcao is behind only Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi in the La Liga scoring charts this season, and has become one of the most sought after strikers in Europe.

City have moved early to get a head start on their rivals after missing out on top targets last summer.

Looks as though Txiki is already beginning procedures in terms of acquiring Falcao/Cavani/Neymar


Now we probably will not end up with all 3 but at least it shows that we are trying to get business sorted in time for pre-season.

According to the Sunday People? I wouldn't take much notice.
 
Re.Falcao, I think he is nailed on for Chelsea, and part of the Courtois loan was because of this. And despite his awful record at Chelsea, don't be surprised to see Atletico's golden boy Torres involved in the deal. IMO there is too much media in Spain claiming he has already agreed to join Chelsea. Pretty sure I read some quotes from Falcao too explaining how he loves Chelsea and supported them as a kid, and still does follow their results.

Cavani though, City bound
 
mgreenz97 said:
I'm not all that keen on Serie A strikers, Balotelli left a sour taste in my mouth.
Falcao would be great but we have to set a limit on the price tag.
I think that any more than £45m is too much.

It isn't your money nor mine ridiculous transfer fees are now the norm, fuck it break the bank. Lets face it a 30 goal a season striker and we wouldn't be 12 pts behind the scum.
 
m7mcfc said:
mgreenz97 said:
I'm not all that keen on Serie A strikers, Balotelli left a sour taste in my mouth.
Falcao would be great but we have to set a limit on the price tag.
I think that any more than £45m is too much.

It isn't your money nor mine ridiculous transfer fees are now the norm, fuck it break the bank. Lets face it a 30 goal a season striker and we wouldn't be 12 pts behind the scum.

Would you say the Bundesliga is a better or worse competition than Serie A?
 
AntiUnited said:
Yes he scored 3 non counter attacking goals is a that a good enough sample size to spend 40+ million on a striker and what if he goes bust (funding him means selling dzeko probably) then where really fucked.

And this is why our scouts earn six figures (and Director of Football probably seven figures) to examine all the footage and determine Cavani's ability and more importantly adaptability to the team. This has failed us in the past when we signed players like Dzeko and Milner (who have both served us well but neither is an optimal fit and neither has had their potential exploited due to the style we play) but we have probably the most respected Director of Football in Europe and I think after last summer the club will want to be very careful not to make mistakes. I think the guys in charge will be better qualified than either of us to make a decision on Cavani so we should trust what they say, but ruling him out just because he flourishes in a system a club likes to play is a bit naive. Many players have flourished in a specific style then flourished in another style too, that's what top players do.
 
LoveCity said:
AntiUnited said:
Yes he scored 3 non counter attacking goals is a that a good enough sample size to spend 40+ million on a striker and what if he goes bust (funding him means selling dzeko probably) then where really fucked.

And this is why our scouts earn six figures (and Director of Football probably seven figures) to examine all the footage and determine Cavani's ability and more importantly adaptability to the team. This has failed us in the past when we signed players like Dzeko and Milner (who have both served us well but neither is an optimal fit for the type of football we've been trying to play) but we have probably the most respected Director of Football in Europe and I think after last summer the club will want to be very careful not to make mistakes.

Na u have a fair point. lets hope your right cuz even though i think canvani is amazing. i just cant see him playing in our style (since ive only seen him play counter attacking football). i still say our strikers are not the issue but is always good to freshen it up ofc. but if we need spend big dollars i would prefer it be spent on a left back (banes) and another midfielder(isco or some 1 that would give pace)
but ofc its my opinion.
 
If you read today's People and today's Telegraph, there are contrasting stories regarding Falcao. I have no idea what to believe, but I'd rather read these 'reports' online than go to the trouble of paying money for these concocted stories.
 
IMO Txiki will be at the very least opening talks with Falcao/Cavani/Neymar as we sit here typing away.

The fella will not fuck around and allow us to be put in a situation where we have no chance at all in acquiring their services for our club.

If we are to believe reports then we could also be putting in offers on the players at the same time. We will move quick and fast this summer in the transfer market to bring in the players we want and require to take our football to the next level.

After that the rest of the summer will be about bringing in players who can establish themselves within the club but not on high wages.
 
Am I the middle of reading Ferran Sorianos book Goal: The Ball Doesn't Go In By Chance: Management Ideas from the World of Football and these guys don't mess about he will be looking at all 3 and playing them off against each other. He will be laying the ground work and will be ultra prepared when he speaks to each club.

Since starting this book the few things I have learned are these guys are slick and know how to make a transfers deal happen. I felt that Mario would be gone as he was everything that these guys don't put up with. look at the Barca players they are angels compared to Mario.

Any blues fancy a peak behind the curtain could do a lot worse that get a cop of this book.
 
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