Cementery to be turned into mosque

[Stuart]

PB this sounds like an extremely arrogant reply! This has nothing to do with religion, if they were going to build a new tescos it would be the same reply! respect is what this is about!

I recently went to Auschwitz with the Mrs. If the polish government decided to allow Aldi to build a supermarket on the site do you really think it would be allowed?? is there a difference.. I think not!

That's a nonsensical reply. Plenty of graveyards get built over. In Cheetham Hill, there is a Tesco built on top of an old graveyard. No one had been buried there for many years and it had been closed since 1966. All the bodies were exhumed and reburied. I don't get the "respect for the dead" bit. They're dead and decomposed. Respect for the living is more important.

Auschwitz is a different case entirely as it was the site of the greatest mass murder ever carried out. It is an educational site, a museum and a key part of the awful heritage of mans inhumanity to man.

I've not been in Cheetham Hill for a long time , but there use to be a disused church on the corner of Cheetham Hill Rd and Smedley Lane .
Is that the church you're on about PB ? My great-great grandfather is/was buried there .

 

[PistonBlue]

PB this sounds like an extremely arrogant reply! This has nothing to do with religion, if they were going to build a new tescos it would be the same reply! respect is what this is about!

I recently went to Auschwitz with the Mrs. If the polish government decided to allow Aldi to build a supermarket on the site do you really think it would be allowed?? is there a difference.. I think not!

That's a nonsensical reply. Plenty of graveyards get built over. In Cheetham Hill, there is a Tesco built on top of an old graveyard. No one had been buried there for many years and it had been closed since 1966. All the bodies were exhumed and reburied. I don't get the "respect for the dead" bit. .

And what a grand job they made of it. <a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3185087.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manc ... 185087.stm</a>

Incidentally, the graveyard was still in use in the early 70's.

 

[Stuart]

By asking "what would Pakistan do?" you're holding them up as a standard aren't you? Otherwise I don't see the relevance of bringing Pakistan up.

Because Muslims are from pakistan and Muslims use mosque's thats why i brought pakistan into it

The naming the Teddy Bear Mohammed incident didn't happen in Pakistan , and there are Christian churches in Pakistan .

 

[salfordpaul]

PB this sounds like an extremely arrogant reply! This has nothing to do with religion, if they were going to build a new tescos it would be the same reply! respect is what this is about!

I recently went to Auschwitz with the Mrs. If the polish government decided to allow Aldi to build a supermarket on the site do you really think it would be allowed?? is there a difference.. I think not!

That's a nonsensical reply. Plenty of graveyards get built over. In Cheetham Hill, there is a Tesco built on top of an old graveyard. No one had been buried there for many years and it had been closed since 1966. All the bodies were exhumed and reburied. I don't get the "respect for the dead" bit. They're dead and decomposed. Respect for the living is more important.

Auschwitz is a different case entirely as it was the site of the greatest mass murder ever carried out. It is an educational site, a museum and a key part of the awful heritage of mans inhumanity to man.

try telling that to the families of loved ones who are buried there!

why aren't places in Kosovo or iraq kept as historical sites of mass murder! why Auschwitz as you ve brought the subject up! Mass murder has been practised all over the world from year 1! There are examples everywhere! My point being these people need a place to "rest in peace" no man should meddle in this!

 

[mcfc_die_hard]

Because Muslims are from pakistan and Muslims use mosque's thats why i brought pakistan into it

The naming the Teddy Bear Mohammed incident didn't happen in Pakistan , and there are Christian churches in Pakistan .

Im sure it happened in a muslim school while she was on a trip to pakistan

 

[ElanJo]

By asking "what would Pakistan do?" you're holding them up as a standard aren't you? Otherwise I don't see the relevance of bringing Pakistan up.

Because Muslims are from pakistan and Muslims use mosque's thats why i brought pakistan into it

Muslims are from Britain aswell. You're saying that because Pakistan wouldn't allow a Church to be built, let alone on an old Mosque, we should not allow a Mosque to be built over an old Church, right? Perhaps it's Pakistan, if what you say is true, that is in the wrong not us. Who cares what Pakistan would do.

I'd prefer if the Mosque wasn't being built, as I said a car park would be more helpful, but we don't live in my ideal world, big deal...

 

[stony]

Cemetery's and graveyards get churned up all the time and no one gives a shite. I can think of 4 off the top of my head within a couple of miles of each other.
There used to be a graveyard on Hill street in Heywood, it's now a carpark. Church on Benfield street is now a house. St Lukes in Heywood centre has had all the graves removed and been landscaped. St Jimmy's on Tower street went one further and used all the old gravestones as a new path.

I could go on but I can't be arsed. I suspect the reason most people are getting upset is because what is being built in it's place.

 

[DTeacher]

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Views?

Why don't you tell us what YOUR views are (though I can guess what they are from the fact that you posted it in the first place). Or are you content to let the illiterate, poorly educated and 'frothing at the mouth' posters like 'mcfc-dead-hard-me' look like the xenophobic imbeciles they are?

 

[Stuart]

The naming the Teddy Bear Mohammed incident didn't happen in Pakistan , and there are Christian churches in Pakistan .

Im sure it happened in a muslim school while she was on a trip to pakistan

Sudan in Africa mate.

 

[StrangewaysHereWeCome]

Let go.

He's right, it's a waste of space. There's billions and billions of people lived in this world and there'll be billions and billions more. No fucker has the rite to have a little spot for themselves for the rest of time, it's just greedy and smacks of self importance. There's a big cemetery near me and it's just a fucking big waste of space that could be used for much better things like a Nando's (we don't have any round here) or a go kart track or something. Dig em up and fuck em off

You've got your photos of them and that if you want to reminisce, no need to go spoiling evryone elses life because you can't let go or you wanna be rotting in a coffin for the rest of time

/\/\/\ Post of the year surely?

here's a big cemetery near me and it's just a fucking big waste of space that could be used for much better things like a Nando's (we don't have any round here) or a go kart track or something. Dig em up and fuck em off

Especially that bit FPMSL.

All joking aside though (you were joking weren't you mate? ...mate?)




I can see why people would not want to see old Churches touched at all, they are part of the history of this country.

Does strike me as strange that the new owners of the church apparently (according to that video anyway) found the old headstones offensive? WTF is that all about,do muslims find death and the dead offensive????

If more people had kept true to their christian beliefs and forked out a few quid to keep churches going instead of spunking all their coin on beer,fags and slags then the church wouldn't have had to sell up to some new owner with no regard for the buildings past would they?