Centre-back

Dunno if he's been mentioned but Eric Dier.

Now hear me out, he's 19, plays for Sporting Lisbon and has a £4.2m buy out clause. He can play as a CB, RB or CDM. We could use him as a squad player and he would come very handy in defensive areas when needed. By the time hes 25, Kompany will be 33 and we will be looking for replacements, Dier could be our man.

Unless he's shit or Chelsea get him as he is being linked with them today.
 
It seems pretty clear to me that City went after pepe.

The only reason for this would be the board / management do not think Nastasic or the squad is good enough and Pepe would not want to be sat on the bench.

If that is the case then where is the plan B? Scratching around looking at buying other teams free transfers is no where near the same standard of player. Hope this decision to potentially put all our eggs in the pepe bascket doesn't come back to haunt us. It would be a shame after such a good window that we throw the season away because we have no quality cover at CB a position were it's known Kompany has injury issues.
 
LoveCity said:
BringBackSwales said:
LoveCity said:
Aren't you forgetting our own 18-year-old lefty who's considered a real talent and could save us millions? :)

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yeah but....isn't he on loan for the season and hence unable to save us a few millions right now?
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Yeah, but the poster said to sign 1 experienced and 1 young central defender. Signing the young central defender would be pointless if Rekik is going to be something. Sign the experienced defender by all means but don't block the path of Rekik in favour of a kid who hasn't played outside of South America yet. Boyata (or Micah) can be the 5th choice central defender this year after we add an experienced CB.
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But are you sure he's going to be something? He played 1 game at LB last year. Was good but that's 1 game and not at CB. I don't think we should hold possitions for players on the hope they turn out. I'd like to have more in the piepline to give us better odds that 1 turns out to be a player. You can't have enough quality CH's. Every club in the world is looking for them.
 
Mr. Aguia said:
LoveCity said:
BringBackSwales said:
yeah but....isn't he on loan for the season and hence unable to save us a few millions right now?
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Yeah, but the poster said to sign 1 experienced and 1 young central defender. Signing the young central defender would be pointless if Rekik is going to be something. Sign the experienced defender by all means but don't block the path of Rekik in favour of a kid who hasn't played outside of South America yet. Boyata (or Micah) can be the 5th choice central defender this year after we add an experienced CB.
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But are you sure he's going to be something? He played 1 game at LB last year. Was good but that's 1 game and not at CB. I don't think we should hold possitions for players on the hope they turn out. I'd like to have more in the piepline to give us better odds that 1 turns out to be a player. You can't have enough quality CH's. Every club in the world is looking for them.
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He's playing in the Champions League (and played well against Milan with Mario + Shaarawy) and has been called up by the Netherlands. Surely his immediate credentials are better than a Colombian at River Plate who we might not even be able to get a work permit for because he has 0 caps? Blocking the progress of a talented kid by spending more money on someone not very proven either seems in direct conflict with our holistic vision.
 
Mr. Aguia said:
LoveCity said:
BringBackSwales said:
yeah but....isn't he on loan for the season and hence unable to save us a few millions right now?
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Yeah, but the poster said to sign 1 experienced and 1 young central defender. Signing the young central defender would be pointless if Rekik is going to be something. Sign the experienced defender by all means but don't block the path of Rekik in favour of a kid who hasn't played outside of South America yet. Boyata (or Micah) can be the 5th choice central defender this year after we add an experienced CB.
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But are you sure he's going to be something? He played 1 game at LB last year. Was good but that's 1 game and not at CB. I don't think we should hold possitions for players on the hope they turn out. I'd like to have more in the piepline to give us better odds that 1 turns out to be a player. You can't have enough quality CH's. Every club in the world is looking for them.
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Rekik had a very good loan spell at Portsmouth and was one of the EDS's best players, he had a poor spell at Blackburn as the managment constantly played him at left-back, out of position. He is now out on loan at PSV where he seems to be coming into his own, he has had 3 brilliant games already and one of them came against a Milan side with Balotelli, El Shaarawy and Kevin-Price Boateng. Due to his recent form at PSV, he has been called up for the Netherlands national side. I'd say he has as good a chance as anyone of making it to our level for anyone at his age.
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we have got to sign a centre back!

Surely everybody else thinks this. As well as we played against Newcastle, if we play with Garcia and lescott at centre back against the rags, there is no way we won't concede. Problem is, I don't see us buying one. The only two we have been linked with is pepe and demichellis, anyone else want to throw some names in?
 
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Funnily enough there's a thread about 5 down called, wait for it.....

"Centre Back"
 
Re: we have got to sign a centre back!

others CB we can have a look at are godin mangala otamendi or garay.. from that list i'll take garay
 
Re: we have got to sign a centre back!

if only someone would have thought about this before and created a thread.
 
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MihaiCity said:
others CB we can have a look at are godin mangala otamendi or garay.. from that list i'll take garay
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Were the rags not after garay a while back? Interest seems to have waned then
 
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Joe hart's itchy scalp said:
MihaiCity said:
others CB we can have a look at are godin mangala otamendi or garay.. from that list i'll take garay
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Were the rags not after garay a while back? Interest seems to have waned then
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yes they were but i don't think they are interested on him atm..i think a 16-20M offer and we can have him
 
Vlad Chiriches a lad we were linked with at the start of the window, is on the move media seem to think spurs but he has been linked with a lot of clubs around Europe, so it could be anyone his agent said he was meeting us but nothing else was mentioned about it, maybe we were able to keep this on the downlow?
 
LoveCity said:
Mr. Aguia said:
LoveCity said:
Yeah, but the poster said to sign 1 experienced and 1 young central defender. Signing the young central defender would be pointless if Rekik is going to be something. Sign the experienced defender by all means but don't block the path of Rekik in favour of a kid who hasn't played outside of South America yet. Boyata (or Micah) can be the 5th choice central defender this year after we add an experienced CB.
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But are you sure he's going to be something? He played 1 game at LB last year. Was good but that's 1 game and not at CB. I don't think we should hold possitions for players on the hope they turn out. I'd like to have more in the piepline to give us better odds that 1 turns out to be a player. You can't have enough quality CH's. Every club in the world is looking for them.
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He's playing in the Champions League (and played well against Milan with Mario + Shaarawy) and has been called up by the Netherlands. Surely his immediate credentials are better than a Colombian at River Plate who we might not even be able to get a work permit for because he has 0 caps? Blocking the progress of a talented kid by spending more money on someone not very proven either seems in direct conflict with our holistic vision.
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How can he block the progress of Rekik when Rekik is playing for PSV? Unless you think we should cancell his loan spell. I don't get this idea that people have that we can only have 1 prospect in the club. That somehow they won't be able to develope if they have to compete with each other. It seems to work OK for Barca. They have talented youth players at most every position, don't play much and still seem to develope just fine(see Thiago). Having good young players compeeting for spots is a very good thing.
 
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How can he block the progress of Rekik when Rekik is playing for PSV? Unless you think we should cancell his loan spell.
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Rekik will be back next year and if he keeps this form up, in the first team squad. What do we do with this new 'lefty' then, flog him after one year? It's easy to say they can compete, but you're not going to get three players competing for one position when all three of them are young and hungry for games - one of them would be the odd man out and seldom playing.

I don't get this idea that people have that we can only have 1 prospect in the club. That somehow they won't be able to develope if they have to compete with each other.
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We have dozens of prospects at the club, but Rekik is at that stage where he is one step away from becoming the first player from City's youth system to properly break through in years, which will be a major step forward in the 'holistic' self-sustainable vision this club has.

Right now we have Nastasic and Lescott as left-footers in the first team squad and Rekik in his major development year. The natural progression is to promote Rekik next year when Lescott's contract expires, rather than spend a few more million on someone who, as I've said, we'll unlikely get a work permit for as he is uncapped and doesn't hold dual nationality. If we didn't have a MAJOR youth prospect just called up for the Netherlands aged 18, then I'd be all for adding another young prospect in that position. But sometimes it's just buying for the sake of buying and I think this would be it, a bit like adding a third first team right-back. It's right-footed central defenders we're desperately short on right now.
 
As well as Rekik I also believe our other 18yr old centre half,Jason Denayer,will soon be knocking on the door.

Both have fantastic potential.
 
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