CFG | Academy | EDS in & out season 2021/22

No i don't expect overnight success but the academy (like i say) has been open going on 8 years! The rags have had success by successfully integrating youth into the first team and there's no excuses not to give our best kids a chance IMO.
No mate,the rags are shit,meaning,their academy players are good enough to get in.
Would any of the rags academy players broke into our first team,I doubt it.
I can only imagine being in City's academy is probably the toughest one to be in.Most will know they will not get first team football.
But,they will be developed enough to make it elsewhere,imo.
 
I’m not sure you understand what an academy is all about in modern football. Foden is a shining example however the concept is more of a business model now. Its a stream of income selling youth on. Taking a young player on and developing him into a talented prospect to them sell on for millions is a fabulous business model at little cost. City do this perfectly, yes we may have a Phil Foden come along once every 10 years however the concept is far greater. If you thought we’d have a team full of academy player by now then you’d be sadly mistaken.
I'll treat that with the contempt it deserves pal. Sheikh Mansour built the academy to produce youngsters for our benefit, not other clubs!
 
Interesting we have switched to this topic the Athletic have an article out at thus moment on the subject




Honestly though I could live with a season or two finishing say 3rd and trophyless if the year after we won the league and got to cup finals with a team that had 4-5 home grown and preferably mancunian or from gtr manc players in it.
 
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No i don't expect overnight success but the academy (like i say) has been open going on 8 years! The rags have had success by successfully integrating youth into the first team and there's no excuses not to give our best kids a chance IMO.

i think its not that easy matey ?? united do sign the best young kids at 16 and put them down as home grown
it takes 8 years from the first time they come to city. some are now coming at 8 year olds so you can do the maths they would be about 16 now ?

like i said if we can keep adding one or two every season into the first team squad and get them in and around the players then we will see results

also city academy is a gate way into professional football at all levels and loads of young players are now professional footballers because of the academy
 
No i don't expect overnight success but the academy (like i say) has been open going on 8 years! The rags have had success by successfully integrating youth into the first team and there's no excuses not to give our best kids a chance IMO.

Delap, Doyle, Palmer, Harwood-Bellis and Bernabé all started games for us last season. Relax.
 
Interesting we have switched to this topic the Athletic have an article out at thus moment on the subject




Hinestly though I could live with a season finishing say 3rd and trophyless if the year after we won the league and got to cup finals with a team that had 4-5 home grown and preferably mancunian players in it.

Is every part of greater Manchester considered mancunian? (I’m not from England)
 
No mate,the rags are shit,meaning,their academy players are good enough to get in.
Would any of the rags academy players broke into our first team,I doubt it.
I can only imagine being in City's academy is probably the toughest one to be in.Most will know they will not get first team football.
But,they will be developed enough to make it elsewhere,imo.
Exactly....that McTomm lad would never see a first team shirt here, not on his peg anyway.

Most of the raggy ones play a few then are sold on, just fodder but after half a dozen games the rag tax applies and values soar when sold. Maybe that's what we're doing wrong, give kids 6/7 games and sell at £25m rather than £10m from the eds?
 
Delap, Doyle, Palmer, Harwood-Bellis and Bernabé all started games for us last season. Relax.

Pretty much all of those starts came in September in league cup games, when half of the first team were injured or barely back from pre-season. After that the only ones who started were Doyle and THB against Cheltenham (and they were both subbed off).
 
Unless I’m mistaken the only academy players who have started a league game for us in the past 7 years are Foden and Garcia. Is that the absolute maximum we could have expected given how much money we’ve spent on the academy? And in that time plenty of shit players have been given chances - Nolito, Fernando, Kolarov, Sagna, Rodwell, Delph (as a midfielder), Navas (in his last couple of seasons), Bravo, Bony etc. Heaven forbid we give an incredibly talented academy player a chance though.

It’s a cash cow to develop and move on. It’s business.
 

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