Champions League 2018/2019 (Shaktar Donetsk, Lyon, Hoffenheim)

franksinatra said:
Some people cannot even look forward to a Champions league draw without moaning.
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The thing is it isn't a draw in the true sense of the word is it?

You have the pots to start with based on some mathematical calculation that they keep changing to suit the so called "Establishment".

Then you have the TV pairings which show that UEFA do not give a fuck about match going fans because the armchair brigade are more important.

Also you can not play a club from your own country in the group stages.

So all in all it should not be called a DRAW but a FIDDLE to ensure they please the European Elite.

The FA Cup is a draw not the erroneously named CHAMPIONS League.
 
MeatHunterrr said:
might have to do with the fact that we have been rubbish in the CL on the whole since we entered the comp in 2011.
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Have you checked City's Euro co-efficient? We'd be top seeds on the old basis. We regularly get to last 16. Getting beyond quarters is an issue, but rubbish was not getting out of the group. That's changed
 
MeatHunterrr said:
might have to with the fact that we have been rubbish in the CL on the whole since we entered the comp in 2011.
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Latterly, we have been much better. With us avoiding all those in Pot 1 and two qualifying it would be a monumental mess up not to qualify. Prefer some decent games myself as a football fan thats what the game is all about.
 
Marvin said:
Have you checked City's Euro co-efficient? We'd be top seeds on the old basis. We regularly get to last 16. Getting beyond quarters is an issue, but rubbish was not getting out of the group. That's changed
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yes but getting regularly to last 16 should be the bare minimum with our resources, its not achievement. We can't even get regularly to quarter finals, which is poor from us to be honest.
 
Gray said:
The thing is it isn't a draw in the true sense of the word is it?

You have the pots to start with based on some mathematical calculation that they keep changing to suit the so called "Establishment".

Then you have the TV pairings which show that UEFA do not give a fuck about match going fans because the armchair brigade are more important.

Also you can not play a club from your own country in the group stages.

So all in all it should not be called a DRAW but a FIDDLE to ensure they please the European Elite.

The FA Cup is a draw not the erroneously named CHAMPIONS League.
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Agree but its the same every year but most of the moaning is about who United get, how UEFA will give us a tough draw.
 
why have a seeded fucking draw in the first place when uefa hand pick teams to play on tuesday and wednesday nights before its gone to the pots ???

uefa have full control of the draw and know who is going to play each other in the groups and knockouts, bent bent bent and the so called family members of uefa board made up of again top clubs members and get looked after in the games and don't need anymore help in the draws, the officials in the games do all the controlling for them on the pitch

what chance have manchester city really got when you look at the whole process ?? i think it could be easier winning the lotto for city than winning the golden piss pot, i really don't give a shit about champions league football i can understand the fans who go to every game home and away in europe, its the passion of manchester city not the glory of european football we could be playing in a tin pot competition and the die hard fans would walk over burning coals to go and watch, but sometimes when watching you just know your being cheated by the officials and feel for the fans who have gone over to watch a fair game of football and you get that dodgy ref ????
 
franksinatra said:
Agree but its the same every year but most of the moaning is about who United get, how UEFA will give us a tough draw.
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Yes you are correct and to keep us all happy lets hope they get an absolute stinker of a draw along with that other lot of scallies from down the East Lancs Road.

Still think UEFA are as bent as Fuck and personally can't stand their contrived competition.
 
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