Champions League 2023/24 - Last 16 Draw | City v Copenhagen | Tues 13th Feb (A) Weds 6th March (H)

Pick the 8 teams you think will go through


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Not quite as you say. Top seed isn’t guaranteed to always meet the lowest ranked seed left, like in the NFL. It’s more like tennis or darts, where the path is predetermined and you can plot ahead who you are most likely to meet in upcoming rounds. Like those other sports, the table is in two separate halves. So from as soon as the last 32 is known, you will know for a fact that you can’t meet 16 of them until the final.

And yes, for your second point. The knockabout path is 100% determined on where you finish in the group. So previous opponents and same counties is irrelevant.

Although not sure if they’ve got some plan for when countries at war, or who don’t get on very well, might be due to meet?

The only restrictions are on the group opponents. They say they will try and keep teams from the same country away from each other. But for countries with five, or theoretically even six, teams, they can’t guarantee it.
I presume you mean as soon as the last 16 is known, not the last 32 as 20 teams are eliminated after the initial league and play off games.
 
The only problem with this is Matchday 7 and 8 being played in January during the EPL winter break and between the break and the FA Cup 4th round. After a heavy schedule culminating in the Christmas/New Year games January can be a month to recharge the batteries. With League Cup games also scheduled for January it’s almost imperative to get knocked out of that competition early to avoid injuries and burnout.

Something has to give and the criteria for which teams are selected to play each other from each pot could involve some dodgy coefficients still based on historical 5 year performance that included games from the Europa and Conference competitions.

Also, if a team has qualified for the last 16, (guaranteed top 8) after say 6 games will all Managers really go full tilt in the final 2 matches when it could severely affect other teams chances of qualifying? I doubt it, scenario: Rags or Dippers are on the cusp of qualifying, we are already guaranteed a place top 8, we play a team competing with them to qualify, we’d be not too arsed if we got beat and if we did with a weakened team there’s going to be all kinds of accusations. Two legged play offs in February as well just a week or so before the knockout round starts.

The CL round games should finish like they do now then on the back burner until February. The new format has some legs but it’s been badly thought out in my opinion, especially the timing of the games.

It's all about the money! Extra games, more revenue for UEFA. More "big games" so even more money. That's what they care about.

The league cup has to be restricted to non-PL teams or non-European teams in my opinion, if not dropped completely now. It's simply too much. It's unlikely anyone will be able to ease their way through the last two games in the CL league phase because it's an overall league table and it will probably be quite tight unless you've won the previous 6. Will depend a lot on the fixtures and who you play when. If we had to play a team from pot 1 and 2 last we might already be through, or could need to win both and in January as you say, that's going to be carnage.
 
I presume you mean as soon as the last 16 is known, not the last 32 as 20 teams are eliminated after the initial league and play off games.

Yeah, sorry, the first knockout round proper, after the play offs. Last 16.
 
@Alan Harper's Tash to the rescue please cos this teacher (me!) is none the wiser.
It’ll be the knock on effect of Leipzig only being able to draw 5 teams and Dortmund and Bayern 6.

We have 7 possibilities, which, if uniform, would be 14.28571% each, but because the German sides are more likely to draw certain sides, that means we are slightly less likely to draw them as a result.

I couldn’t give you the formula for that though!

Hope that makes sense…
 

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