Champions League Games 19/20 October

Just watching the BT brand sale with Crouch saying that it’s the league for Liverpool and Joe Cole stating that it’s the CL for them. Amazed that they didn’t get the FA and League Cup in, just for good measure.

Another season of fighting against the team and officials. Deep joy, we all enjoy a real challenge.
 
Just watched the highlights and it’s a joke that athleticos pk got overturn Lmaoo joys pushes him in the back literally bit difference then the Liverpool awarded pk lmao wow
 
ninjamonkey said:
Greizmann had his boot face height, the instant you do that you're asking for a red card and can have zero complaints at receiving one the second you make contact. It's as stonewall as they come, there's no debate around it.

They wasn't the same. The Liverpool one, Hermoso looked at him, then deviated from his running line in order to initiate contact, ran straight into him deliberately leaning into his path and bundled him over. Clear foul. The Atletico one they are in close proximity already, both running in their natural line with no deviation and there's tussling with one another. there's contact but the Atletico player has thrown himself to the ground unnaturally. There was nowhere near enough contact for that to happen naturally. Its debatable whether it's still a foul or not, but I assume the ref has seen that on replay as the Atletico player milking it and I find it very hard to disagree with that. Its a disease in the game and the more that's done to discourage it the better in my eyes.
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I agre with your initial but have to disagree where you then protect Jota. Exact same instance, different outcome from the ref, after having to be told how to act.

A clear push in the back and then a tangle of legs (who’d have done that), should be a penalty when a player is on goal, just like the previous penalty in the same game.
 
Bluearmy said:
2nd one Side by side, Atletico player feels Jota and throws himself over. Nowhere near enough contact for that type of reaction. Everything that is wrong with the modern game that.....

Jota flattened for the first!! No idea what the defender was thinking, pillock!!
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They were not. This is factually incorrect. Jota is BEHIND him. Shoulders him in the back -- leans into him -- presumably to throw him off.

But apparently that's not a foul because there wasn't enough contact? That's not the standard.

Reaction theatrical? Sure. "Everything wrong with the modern game?" Not everything, but it is something. We'd be screaming were it called against us? Aren't we always? That's irrelevant.

But can a defender shoulder-to-back tackle a player ahead of him? He cannot. It's a foul, and a penalty.

I suspect you and others are meta-arguing because you don't like theatrics. I don't either. It doesn't matter. Still a foul by the letter of the law. I think Jota is beaten, and he knows it, which is why he does what he does.

And gets away with it.
 
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The Future’s Blue! said:
I agre with your initial but have to disagree where you then protect Jota. Exact same instance, different outcome from the ref, after having to be told how to act.

A clear push in the back and then a tangle of legs (who’d have done that), should be a penalty when a player is on goal, just like the previous penalty in the same game.
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I've no issue with anybody that thinks it's a penalty, its a debatable one and I can see why you'd think it was. in my eyes, looking at it as neutrally as possible he's thrown himself to the ground and that blatent attempt to cheat has likely cost him what may have been a legitimate foul. I think its probably too soft for a penalty and have zero problems with the ref not giving it if he's decided the player has tried to cheat. Pity it had to be to liverpools benefit but that behaviour needs punishment.

I disagree with you saying its exactly the same. whether you think they're both penalties or not, they're not exactly the same incident, there's key differences.
 
Im surprised that VAR got the ref to look at it as I don’t think it was a clear and obvious error as such, but at the same time had that been given against us, I’d have thought it very very soft.
 
ninjamonkey said:
I've no issue with anybody that thinks it's a penalty, its a debatable one and I can see why you'd think it was. in my eyes, looking at it as neutrally as possible he's thrown himself to the ground and that blatent attempt to cheat has likely cost him what may have been a legitimate foul. I think its probably too soft for a penalty and have zero problems with the ref not giving it if he's decided the player has tried to cheat. Pity it had to be to liverpools benefit but that behaviour needs punishment.

I disagree with you saying its exactly the same. whether you think they're both penalties or not, they're not exactly the same incident, there's key differences.
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So where was the yellow then? It hasn't been anywhere game-wide (to my great chagrin) but then the ref ruled it by process of elimination a coming together. Which it wasn't.

I don't disagree about the differences though. No doubt the first the defender eyes Jota up and goes out of his line. And when you embellish or whatever, the referee doesn't and shouldn't appreciate the attempt to call attention to it. But that doesn't change that there was contact. If a 5' 2" player kicks a 6' 5" guy in his shin on the way by and the guy stays on his feet, it's still a foul.

Anyway -- what's done is done and it probably won't matter much in the end since I figure AM and the dips are both advancing anyhow.
 
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