Champions League Matches | Semi-Finals | 30 April, 1/7/8 May '24

As much as we deservingly take the piss out of Arsenal, we and them are actually the best teams in Europe this season, but the English energy drain saw us both out, leaving four teams that, if we were at our best, both of us would have smashed.

Us yes , but Arsenal no, we were unlucky to go out on pens by Real Madrid and were the better side for long periods.
Bayern were by far the better side v Arsenal.
And despite all this English energy drain, we looked the fitter side against Madrid .
Unlucky Bernardo was the difference.
 
Games every 3 days…….doesn’t happen in Europe domestic leagues
Yep. The blessing and curse of the Premier League.

I think we've been a player or 2 short all season, think that's the reason we were running out of energy and tired.
I think it has been a combination of the fatigue from our treble exploits and the demands of English competitions. Would have been worse if we’d stayed in the League Cup.

Doubt we would be in the position in the league if we had.

Not so sure about Arsenal, they are historically poor in Europe, apart from their 2006 run where they beat Madrid and Juventus, I don't think they have knocked out a top team in Europe ever.
But that’s not really related to whether they are one of the best teams in Europe this season.

And I think they are, along with us.

In fact, I think we are top and they are a close second.

None of these semifinalists are even in the top five. Two of them aren’t even the best teams in their own league.
 
I actually really like fletcher. Best of a bad bunch of tv commentators (although not a patch on John Murray who to me is the goat)
He also seemed genuinely very excited for us when the Final whistle blew in Istanbul. One of the few times it felt like rooting for us as an English team in Europe.
 
I don't know, if there's one team that could do it, it's City.
Big ask with the level of competition, a kinder route in the CL may have meant a bit more of a chance but to overcome Bayern and Real two seasons in a row was really putting us under huge pressure.
 
Us yes , but Arsenal no, we were unlucky to go out on pens by Real Madrid and were the better side for long periods.
Bayern were by far the better side v Arsenal.
And despite all this English energy drain, we looked the fitter side against Madrid .
Unlucky Bernardo was the difference.
Agree to disagree.

I think we are the best team in Europe and Arsenal are second.

These semifinalists aren’t even in top five.
 
Yep, all the semi finalists had fuck all to play for domestically, Dortmund and Bayern couldn’t challenge for their league as top 5 is nailed on for next season, Real had virtually wrapped up La Liga when they played us and PSG had an unassailable lead in the French League.

Us and the Tarquins were under the most pressure and we had the added FA Cup semi final to deal with, there's no way we would have repeated last years treble under the run of games we faced.
Madrid made 10 changes on the weekend and still won comfortably. Your right, Madrid were so lucky v us, 2 deflected goals in the first game and us having one of those nights where we were so wasteful in the home game.

We were dead on our feet going into extra time due to how much our small squad has played over the last few years.
With the expanded CL and World Club Championship next season i do think we need more quality depth in the squad
 
Very poor standard thar first half, I was expecting a better game to be honest. Bayern look dangerous on the counter attack, If they get the final pass right they definitely create chances.

I'm sure the bus wankers will go through, They'll find a way somehow and more than likely it will be from the penalty spot.
 
Madrid made 10 changes on the weekend and still won comfortably. Your right, Madrid were so lucky v us, 2 deflected goals in the first game and us having one of those nights where we were so wasteful in the home game.

We were dead on our feet going into extra time due to how much our small squad has played over the last few years.
With the expanded CL and World Club Championship next season i do think we need more quality depth in the squad
Although you are right, Madrid were on the ropes over both ties and played like Crystal Palace or the scum relying on counter attacks.... They fluked pens.... We will smash them again in time.
 

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