Cheating Refs

Barcon said:
Anyone that doesn't think the Dzeko penalty was stonewall is just as bad as clattenberg.
even carragher at half time along with all the other 'so-called' experts said it was a pen.
 
Crappenberg, along with most of the refs these days, take the political and less controversial line when it comes to applying the Laws of the Game. All the bloody hype building up to this weekend was always gonna be too much. Nothing controversial from Crapps unless somebody caught the ball and ran round the penalty area holding it for half a minute. And then he would consult the lino and it would be a foul on the goalkeeper.

I have no faith in the quality, integrity, and common sense of ANY referee who currently plies their dishonest trade.
 
Boney said:
Barcon said:
Anyone that doesn't think the Dzeko penalty was stonewall is just as bad as clattenberg.
even carragher at half time along with all the other 'so-called' experts said it was a pen.
The experts know fuck all to be honest. They talk about "contact" but that's not the test. It's intent.

Sakho missed the ball AND Dzeko. If he's caught him in that first movement then yes, penalty 100%. But he didn't and Dzeko sort of made contact as he was gong through then decided to fall. If he goes down as Sakho comes in then he'll get the penalty but he didn't.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Boney said:
Barcon said:
Anyone that doesn't think the Dzeko penalty was stonewall is just as bad as clattenberg.
even carragher at half time along with all the other 'so-called' experts said it was a pen.
The experts know fuck all to be honest. They talk about "contact" but that's not the test. It's intent.

Sakho missed the ball AND Dzeko. If he's caught him in that first movement then yes, penalty 100%. But he didn't and Dzeko sort of made contact as he was gong through then decided to fall. If he goes down as Sakho comes in then he'll get the penalty but he didn't.
True to form
 
ElanJo said:
Even if you forget the obvious pens, there's no way we wouldn't have won that game comfortably if Suarez had been sent off in the 50th minute.
Not only that but he would have been banned for the next game. Of course who knows if Henderson would have been red carded after and sturridge would have gone off injured, but if that happened the red cheating dippers would be all over the shop
 
Olivavu said:
SlinkyKinky said:
birchwoodgingerste said:
Tasteless comment that!

Completely true, the world and the ref has been suckered into the emotional porn of hillsborough! If he had sent of suarez and we drew or won, all you would here would be cries of injustice. Hillsborough was a terrible disaster and the effects on families was terrible, however they milk that worse than united ever did with Munich.

Blaming Hillsborough?

That's low. Really low.
not any lower than trying to invoke memories of 96 dead people to try and motivate players to win a football match
 
He absolutely bottled sending Suarez off. Funnily enough, he had no problems dismissing Torres against the rags for a dive outside the box, and that one was no where near as blatant as Suarez's.

He could never give the Skrtel handball, not a chance in hell he would have had any idea who touched it, let alone if someone did it with their hand. The Sakho challenge was a foul but can see why it wasn't given. He could have given Suarez a pen too when Komps was all over him but he didn't. Henderson's challenge was an obvious call. Good performance from him overall in a big game, bar bottling sending Suarez off.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Boney said:
Barcon said:
Anyone that doesn't think the Dzeko penalty was stonewall is just as bad as clattenberg.
even carragher at half time along with all the other 'so-called' experts said it was a pen.
The experts know fuck all to be honest. They talk about "contact" but that's not the test. It's intent.

Sakho missed the ball AND Dzeko. If he's caught him in that first movement then yes, penalty 100%. But he didn't and Dzeko sort of made contact as he was gong through then decided to fall. If he goes down as Sakho comes in then he'll get the penalty but he didn't.
So if you don't intend to foul a player but foul him it's no foul? Intent has nothing to do with it.

Sakho went to ground and impeded dzeko. Clear pen unless it's at klanfield. Don't think they have conceded a pen all season. Sums up the league since they have skrtl bear hugging strikers at every set piece or corner.
 
Suarez red and handball pen.

Ridiculous.

Yes Pelle got the wrong team first half and Kompany had a mare but with the correct decisions we still win.
 
I find it bizarre that clattenberg blew for the dive by saurez but did not book him for it. I thought any simulation results in a booking??
 
Did I hear it had been 83 games since their last red card? And that was as at Old Trafford... Says it all really
 
city5189 said:
I find it bizarre that clattenberg blew for the dive by saurez but did not book him for it. I thought any simulation results in a booking??
Suarez dived in to the foetal position clutching his face. His intention was to get a free kick and get demichelis carded. It was clear simulation and unsporting conduct. As clear a yellow card as there is. Complete bottle job by clattenberg. I'm still fucking angry about it.
 
Is there any other competitive sport where incompetent / bent officials have more influence? How many times have we been dicked by the officials? It's as sure as night following day that english football is rotten from top to bottom.
 
Boney said:
Barcon said:
Anyone that doesn't think the Dzeko penalty was stonewall is just as bad as clattenberg.
even carragher at half time along with all the other 'so-called' experts said it was a pen.

Dzeko needs to learn how to get it. What was he thinking stepping over the defender. He should have been on his arse the minute the legs were there.
 
Gillespie said:
You should have had a pen for the Skyrtl forearm smash but to be honest you can't blame the ref. No one noticed it at the time and we wouldn't have known except for the replay from Sky.

Yeah but what about Silva being scythed from behind
 
city5189 said:
I find it bizarre that clattenberg blew for the dive by saurez but did not book him for it. I thought any simulation results in a booking??

He chose not to book him because he knew he was walking if he did, no doubt about it
 
inbetween said:
city5189 said:
I find it bizarre that clattenberg blew for the dive by saurez but did not book him for it. I thought any simulation results in a booking??

He chose not to book him because he knew he was walking if he did, no doubt about it


Be very interesting to know what he said to Kompany in explaining why he didnt send him off as he should have done......suarez dived at least twice, the most blatant being the first and as he was already on a yellow he should have been off...not sure it would have made a difference to the result but a one match suspension would have harmed them
 
CityFan94 said:
The handball was hard to spot in normal time.

Clattenberg didn't have the option to view several replays of the incident. If he did, he would have given it.

He didn't cost us this game today. None of the 5 goals today had anything to do with a refereeing decision.

No body is saying that and you know. Stop trying to twist the argument.
We had 3 GOOD calls for pens and Suarez should have walked end of.<br /><br />-- Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:52 pm --<br /><br />
Prestwich_Blue said:
CityFan94 said:
I thought the ref was actually pretty good today.

He wasn't going to give a penalty today to either side unless it was a stonewall decision and I don't think any of them were.

Suarez probably should have been shown a second yellow for his dive, but Clattenberg definitively didn't cost us this result today.
The only really stonewall penalty was the Skrtel handball but who saw that in real-time? Suarez could easily have gone and probably should have but I guess he's got to be 100% sure in a situation like that.

The Dzeko one he went down far too late and Sakho didn't really take him out. The one on Milner(?) was a closer call but still not stonewall.

For me the Silva one was the easiest to spot. Sipwed his leg from under him.
 

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