Ched Evans - serious injury

Eli Panic said:
blue underpants said:
Eli Panic said:
I'm no fan of Taylor, but it was good to hear someone getting the better of Durham - and he spoke a lot of sense too. I not sure if it is possible to tell if someone slams the phone down. The instant it is down, any sound to the other person is immediately gone. There is no crashing noise or anything. Taylor said his bit then went on his way.

Cowardly Durham though, can't accept he was made to look a fool, so he goes on building up his argument giving Taylor no right of reply.

I hardly ever listen to TalkSport any more. I can't say I miss them very much.
I would say he cut it short without saying ''goodnight'' and the phone definitely sounded different going down

Oh, he was definitely annoyed. Durham was being totally unreasonable, asking whether Taylor should have changed the outcome of the vote (in which Evans was elected to Team of the Year by his fellow pros) because the awards event was two days after his conviction. Durham also suggested that the applause was specifically for Evans, when Taylor pointed out it came after all the team had been announced and was clearly for all those selected for the team. Twice Taylor pulled Durham up for misquoting him, and he skilfully avoided going down a particular avenue of questioning at least once.

Taylor represented his client well, and I thought Durham was shown up for his attempted sensationalism. Taylor was exasperated at the end of the call, and there were no mutual platitudes at the end. The end of the call was somewhat confusing, with Durham issuing his thanks after Taylor had already gone, and there was some phone fumbling. Durham then attempted to justify himself, but there was no longer the right for Taylor to reply.

My impression was that Taylor was annoyed by Durham's interview, but he didn't lose his cool.

Tut, trust you to spoil a good story by shooting it down with a well balanced and accurate recollection of the conversation.

How long have you been on Bluemoon?


You should know better ;-)
 
BigOscar said:
Pelly Greeny said:
BigOscar said:
Actually, even the victim has no idea what happened, as she was too drunk to remember. It seems to be his word against random guessing of what might of happened, which seems odd. There must be more to the case that people are not being told, as otherwise it's staggering that he was sent to jail and that his appeals weren't succesful. I've known plenty of women who have been genuinely date raped, who couldn't get the rapist sent down because of how hard it is to prove these things, so for him to be sent down for what he is alleged to have done, there must be more too it.

With the amount of people who get away with rape and the anger that that causes, it's not at all surprising the amount of backlash towards Evans, but he is being unfairly burdened with the crimes of others, rather than just his own. He is the scapegoat, the poster boy for men who take advantage of women, so he's recieving all the hate for all the hurt that these people cause. He is by no means innocent though, as at best he's a pretty scummy man who takes advantage of drunk women, but there is no reason at all why he shouldn't be allowed to play football again, but these groups are going to make it incredibly tough for him. He'll manage though, as even Marlon King continued to get football clubs, despite being a far worse human being and a far worse footballer.

You do?
Yes, date rape is terrifyingly common. If you know a large amount of woman in their 20's then you probably do as well.

Just that the bit I highlighted sounded a bit, a bit.......... well y'know ;-)
 
Pelly Greeny said:
BigOscar said:
Pelly Greeny said:
Yes, date rape is terrifyingly common. If you know a large amount of woman in their 20's then you probably do as well.

Just that the bit I highlighted sounded a bit, a bit.......... well y'know ;-)
Ah, a joke about me being a rapist. Hilarious.
 
Regardless of whether or not it was a shaky conviction, Evans has served his time and should be free to sign and play for whoever he pleases. He's 24 and football is his trade.
 
warpig said:
Regardless of whether or not it was a shaky conviction, Evans has served his time and should be free to sign and play for whoever he pleases. He's 24 and football is his trade.

No idea if it's been asked already as I've only just given up on the £2 thread and haven't had time for anything else - anyway..... would you feel that a convicted pedophile or child murderer had served his time and should be free to play pro football again?
 
It's interesting how much media attention this debate has got. Jamie Oliver employing a nonce has hardly had a mention.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11166299/Jamie-Oliver-takes-on-paedophile-as-restaurant-apprentice.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... ntice.html</a>
 
Pelly Greeny said:
warpig said:
Regardless of whether or not it was a shaky conviction, Evans has served his time and should be free to sign and play for whoever he pleases. He's 24 and football is his trade.

No idea if it's been asked already as I've only just given up on the £2 thread and haven't had time for anything else - anyway..... would you feel that a convicted pedophile or child murderer had served his time and should be free to play pro football again?

If you look at the example of child murder, there is a greater tariff than that of rape, as it is deemed to be more serious in nature. In this instance, Due to the length of sentence I doubt said person would still be of an age to play professional football on their release.
 
Pelly Greeny said:
Eli Panic said:
blue underpants said:
I would say he cut it short without saying ''goodnight'' and the phone definitely sounded different going down

Oh, he was definitely annoyed. Durham was being totally unreasonable, asking whether Taylor should have changed the outcome of the vote (in which Evans was elected to Team of the Year by his fellow pros) because the awards event was two days after his conviction. Durham also suggested that the applause was specifically for Evans, when Taylor pointed out it came after all the team had been announced and was clearly for all those selected for the team. Twice Taylor pulled Durham up for misquoting him, and he skilfully avoided going down a particular avenue of questioning at least once.

Taylor represented his client well, and I thought Durham was shown up for his attempted sensationalism. Taylor was exasperated at the end of the call, and there were no mutual platitudes at the end. The end of the call was somewhat confusing, with Durham issuing his thanks after Taylor had already gone, and there was some phone fumbling. Durham then attempted to justify himself, but there was no longer the right for Taylor to reply.

My impression was that Taylor was annoyed by Durham's interview, but he didn't lose his cool.

Tut, trust you to spoil a good story by shooting it down with a well balanced and accurate recollection of the conversation.

How long have you been on Bluemoon?


You should know better ;-)
Yeah, stop being level headed, you'v got to learn to stir it a bit on here lol
 

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