Ched Evans - serious injury

[denislawsbackheel]

Whether he's guilty or not is irrelevant in this debate. Whether it's a professional footballer, scientist or any other job. It is incomprehensible to remove someones right to work in their respective field for something done outside of that scope. You don't have to agree with the decision to employ him, you don't even have to like it, but if someone is willing to employ him, that is their risk to take.

What bullshit!
So a teacher who rapes a 30 year old can return to teaching then?
Or a doctor?

Anyway he won't get signed by Sheff Utd. Their sponsors have already said they're off if he signs.

 

[chris85mcfc]

Whether he's guilty or not is irrelevant in this debate. Whether it's a professional footballer, scientist or any other job. It is incomprehensible to remove someones right to work in their respective field for something done outside of that scope. You don't have to agree with the decision to employ him, you don't even have to like it, but if someone is willing to employ him, that is their risk to take.

What bullshit!
So a teacher who rapes a 30 year old can return to teaching then?
Or a doctor?

Anyway he won't get signed by Sheff Utd. Their sponsors have already said they're off if he signs.

Of course its not bullshit

Where do you suggest he goes for work, bearing in mind his profession is a footballer?

 

[kinkysleftfoot]

Whether he's guilty or not is irrelevant in this debate. Whether it's a professional footballer, scientist or any other job. It is incomprehensible to remove someones right to work in their respective field for something done outside of that scope. You don't have to agree with the decision to employ him, you don't even have to like it, but if someone is willing to employ him, that is their risk to take.

What bullshit!
So a teacher who rapes a 30 year old can return to teaching then?
Or a doctor?

Anyway he won't get signed by Sheff Utd. Their sponsors have already said they're off if he signs.

I think everyone should wait and see what happens with his appeal!

 

[Crouchinho]

There was never as much venom when Lee Hughes signed for Oldham Athletic and he left a man for dead or when Marlon King sexually assaulted a woman then signed for Coventry. This Ched Evans stuff is way out of control, he's done his time. In certain professions you cannot be in a job with a criminal record or on the sex register act, but that doesn't apply to football. I don't really understand the witch-hunt

 

[Techno]

Whether he's guilty or not is irrelevant in this debate. Whether it's a professional footballer, scientist or any other job. It is incomprehensible to remove someones right to work in their respective field for something done outside of that scope. You don't have to agree with the decision to employ him, you don't even have to like it, but if someone is willing to employ him, that is their risk to take.

What bullshit!
So a teacher who rapes a 30 year old can return to teaching then?
Or a doctor?

Anyway he won't get signed by Sheff Utd. Their sponsors have already said they're off if he signs.

Of course its not bullshit

Where do you suggest he goes for work, bearing in mind his profession is a footballer?

As I said above, a club will give him work as a footballer, but it won't be a club with multi million pound sponsors and female 'celebs' who put their name to the club.

As a result he'll earn a lot less money but will still be employed in his profession as a footballer.

 

[argyle]

What is surprising are the posters on here who are so quick to overlook his crime like all he did was steal a penny sweet.

For those saying he has done his time, he hasn't, he's done half his time and is out on licence. He has also lost one appeal already.

I also don't understand the venom towards Jessica Ennis, an olympian who has done nothing wrong.

 

[Wio Gumflapdinand]

What is surprising are the posters on here who are so quick to overlook his crime like all he did was steal a penny sweet.

For those saying he has done his time, he hasn't, he's done half his time and is out on licence. He has also lost one appeal already.

I also don't understand the venom towards Jessica Ennis, an olympian who has done nothing wrong.

With regards Jessica Ennis it's the double standards, as I said earlier she had no problem with her name being put on the stand while Marlon King was still playing in a Sheffield United shirt...so is she saying punching a women in the face and sexually assaulting her is ok, or is it she's a racist and it's because King was black and Evans is white or could it be because this Evans case is getting more media exposure and she's just looking for attention.

 

[argyle]

What is surprising are the posters on here who are so quick to overlook his crime like all he did was steal a penny sweet.

For those saying he has done his time, he hasn't, he's done half his time and is out on licence. He has also lost one appeal already.

I also don't understand the venom towards Jessica Ennis, an olympian who has done nothing wrong.

With regards Jessica Ennis it's the double standards, as I said earlier she had no problem with her name being put on the stand while Marlon King was still playing in a Sheffield United shirt...so is she saying punching a women in the face and sexually assaulting her is ok, or is it she's a racist and it's because King was black and Evans is white or could it be because this Evans case is getting more media exposure and she's just looking for attention.

A woman doesn't want to be associated with a club who might re-sign a rapist and you think it's attention seeking?

 

[argyle]

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/nov/14/jessica-ennis-hill-rape-threats-ched-evans-stance

Ennis-Hill received the abuse on Twitter, with one tweet, sent from the handle @RickieLambert07 reading: “Jessica Ennis-Hill is a stupid ****. Saying she will remove her name if Ched Evens [sic] is signed. I hope he rapes her.” Both the tweet and account were then deleted.

After the troll was called “scum” for his threat, he replied: “Freedom of speech mate … I’ll say what I want when I want!”.

Another Twitter user, going by the handle @CoreyOC21, sent a message to Ennis-Hill which read: “Hope Ched Evans gets you you little slut.”

These were just two tweets. Go through the hashtag of her name on twitter and you'll find hundreds of tweets criticising her, abusing her etc.

 

[moomba]

Not sure why Jessica Ennis (and others) couldnt make her feelings known to the Sheff United board privately. She's certain entitled to her opinion but there seems to be a bit of grandstanding going on.

I think a lot of this has to do with people wanting someone to be punished over and above the sentence that he was given. Not sure why it's acceptable for him to be employed as a footballer by a smaller club on a lower income, but not ok for him to be employed by Sheff United.

 

[Anonymous]

Not sure why Jessica Ennis (and others) couldnt make her feelings known to the Sheff United board privately. She's certain entitled to her opinion but there seems to be a bit of grandstanding going on.

I think a lot of this has to do with people wanting someone to be punished over and above the sentence that he was given. Not sure why it's acceptable for him to be employed as a footballer by a smaller club on a lower income, but not ok for him to be employed by Sheff United.

Is this why they named a stand after her?

 

[solley attwell]

As much as you can loath Ched Evans and everything he has done. There is a lot of hypocrisy and posturing going on with regards to his employment at Sheff Utd. Everybody wants to be seen to be of the highest moral standing but where do you draw the line. If no club in England is brave enough to give him a contract, what does he do then? . If he turns up in a Tesco store in Sheffield as a butcher boy, will the likes of Ennis boycott the brand or demand he's taken off her route if he ends up collecting her rubbish. And with all the negative press, will it mean if he does get employment in a menial job that his new employer has no sense of morality

 

[Wio Gumflapdinand]

What is surprising are the posters on here who are so quick to overlook his crime like all he did was steal a penny sweet.

For those saying he has done his time, he hasn't, he's done half his time and is out on licence. He has also lost one appeal already.

I also don't understand the venom towards Jessica Ennis, an olympian who has done nothing wrong.

With regards Jessica Ennis it's the double standards, as I said earlier she had no problem with her name being put on the stand while Marlon King was still playing in a Sheffield United shirt...so is she saying punching a women in the face and sexually assaulting her is ok, or is it she's a racist and it's because King was black and Evans is white or could it be because this Evans case is getting more media exposure and she's just looking for attention.

A woman doesn't want to be associated with a club who might re-sign a rapist and you think it's attention seeking?

So she's got no problem when they sign a sexual assault repeat offender ? And that's ok and not double standards

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

Let's be honest if Sheff Utd don't sign him someone else will.

i don't know why this subject has caused so much 'outrage' to be honest.

It was only 6-7 years ago the convicted murderer Lee Hughes was signed by Notts County.

What has changed? You can't say a rapist can't play football again if you already allow murderers in the sport.

People are allowed opinions. If sponsors or individuals don't want to be associated with a company who employ a high profile rapist, that's there prerogative.

It's maybe old fashioned but some people still get a little outraged when blokes go around raping women.

I'm also sure there would be plenty of outrage in places IF a convicted murderer was trying to get back into the game.

The outrage isn't about him raping the girl it's about him being allowed back into the game.

Lee Hughes was convicted of causing a fatality while dangerous driving yet nowhere near the level of outrage was shown towards him. Even Marlon King was convicted of sexual assault yet this level of fuss wasn't made.

 

[Barcon]

No idea who Jessica ennis was before this thread.

 

[M18CTID]

Not sure why Jessica Ennis (and others) couldnt make her feelings known to the Sheff United board privately. She's certain entitled to her opinion but there seems to be a bit of grandstanding going on.

I think a lot of this has to do with people wanting someone to be punished over and above the sentence that he was given. Not sure why it's acceptable for him to be employed as a footballer by a smaller club on a lower income, but not ok for him to be employed by Sheff United.

I agree she should've expressed her views in private and even then should've said that she will hold off doing anything until the outcome of his latest appeal is known.

That said, those tweets against her are fucking disgusting.

 

[argyle]

Not sure why Jessica Ennis (and others) couldnt make her feelings known to the Sheff United board privately. She's certain entitled to her opinion but there seems to be a bit of grandstanding going on.

I think a lot of this has to do with people wanting someone to be punished over and above the sentence that he was given. Not sure why it's acceptable for him to be employed as a footballer by a smaller club on a lower income, but not ok for him to be employed by Sheff United.

I agree she should've expressed her views in private and even then should've said that she will hold off doing anything until the outcome of his latest appeal is known.

That said, those tweets against her are fucking disgusting.

She can do as she wishes. She's done nothing wrong. She doesn't have to wait for any appeal as he's already been convicted and already had one appeal lost.

Her stance might be due to her own sponsers etc, etc but she isn't the issue here.

 

[tidyman]

I've no idea if Jessica Ennis is a football fan. I've never heard her mention football so I'd guess probably not.

I imagine the most likely scenario was after the hype of the Olympics and the gold post boxes etc. that the football club contacted her and asked if she'd give her name to a stand and with been a local girl, she agreed.

I think there is a very good chance she has never heard of Marlon King and just thought it was a harmless way of promoting a sports club in her area.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Not sure why Jessica Ennis (and others) couldnt make her feelings known to the Sheff United board privately. She's certain entitled to her opinion but there seems to be a bit of grandstanding going on.

I think a lot of this has to do with people wanting someone to be punished over and above the sentence that he was given. Not sure why it's acceptable for him to be employed as a footballer by a smaller club on a lower income, but not ok for him to be employed by Sheff United.

she's a rolemodel and inspiration to British women and girls, she doesn't have to be associated with them if she doesn't agree with them, see Rascal and City over Thaksin.

 

[aguero93:20]

Will the media refer to him evermore as "rapist ched Evans"? That's a bit unfair

They will unless he signs for the rags or the dippers.