Chelsea (a) post match thread

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

That's bluemoon mate that's what we do! Just you wait until after our 1-1 draw with Hull on Saturday haha!

haha true mate. i can't imagine blue moon working if we draw 1-1 on saturday!

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

? i get we haven't won, but how is the performance irrelevant ?. we played really well and lost to the champions. its not the end of the world. no win in four games against some really good teams swell.

can't begin to understand how someone can justify us not winning any of our last 4 games, or only 2 against the other top 5 all season. It's just an inexcusable set of results.

 

[inchy14]

Gundogan was a great player his injuries have been horrific he's not coming back as good or better. Other teams will strengthen as well. We don't know who we will sign or whether they will be bonyesque or decent. To just say we will win everything next year given how average we currently are seems a tad ridiculous and I've been reading that for the past 4 seasons.

4 season!! are you Vivaldi? we won the title 3 seasons ago ffs.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

can't begin to understand how someone can justify us not winning any of our last 4 games, or only 2 against the other top 5 all season. It's just an inexcusable set of results.

Im not tryign to justify anything. my post was more about last nights game, which we played well in. its not 'inexcusable', its as if your saying its a disgrace, its not is it. 2 draws against arsenal and liverpool, losing to the champions and a poor result against stoke. its not inexcusable, its not the worst set of results.

 

[City_Sean]

Its a spoon fed media narrative and some just lap it up.

You will hear something said on the tv or written in the papers and within minutes on here its being trotted out as fact by someone.

Agree to an extent but also think you're being a tad verbose about our attacking play this season, it's been good, but it hasn't yielded the goals or points. When people tak about pragmatism, it's so you nullify your opposition. Playing midfield three of Silva, Dinho and KDB v Monaco who have scored for fun is negligent. Playing a high line with Kolarov, Zaba and Syones in v Leicester is shambolic.

I also don't believe that as a team, we've actually improved that much. The defence is a shambles, and if anything it's worse than under Pellegrini. The midfield is still massively disjointed and offers no cover, and the goalkeeping situation has reached farcical levels.

It's useless posters saying, "oh we've got a better defensive record these last nine games than Chelsea". What relevance is is that? The fact is we've conceded ten more than Chelsea, who have also scored five more.

 

[FJRMCFC]

He obviously cant win with you.You berate him for over ambition,then do similar when he is more conservative?

Sterling has been woeful this past few games,he didnt deserve to start.Nacho doesnt work well with Aguero,and i have my doubts about his overall quality.Unfortunately thats where our options end.

We should have won last night,we played far the better football,only poor fortune prevented that IMO.

How has Sterling been woeful? He had a bad 45 minutes against Arsenal in which he wasn't 100% as Pep said. International break he barely played but managed an assist. Liverpool at home he wasn't bad nor was he bad against Monaco away.

 

[domalino]

Agree to an extent but also think you're being a tad verbose about our attacking play this season, it's been good, but it hasn't yielded the goals or points. When people tak about pragmatism, it's so you nullify your opposition. Playing midfield three of Silva, Dinho and KDB v Monaco who have scored for fun is negligent. Playing a high line with Kolarov, Zaba and Syones in v Leicester is shambolic.

I also don't believe that as a team, we've actually improved that much. The defence is a shambles, and if anything it's worse than under Pellegrini. The midfield is still massively disjointed and offers no cover, and the goalkeeping situation has reached farcical levels.

It's useless posters saying, "oh we've got a better defensive record these last nine games than Chelsea". What relevance is is that? The fact is we've conceded ten more than Chelsea, who have also scored five more.

We lost at Monaco because Pep was pragmatic and played Fernandinho, a more defensive midfielder than Yaya.

The fact that people like you can't see that this team is most defensively secure when we play an attacking lineup which pins the opposition back and controls possession is actually quite sad at this point. It's not new anymore, we've been seeing this for 9 months.


"When people talk about pragmatism it's so you nullify your opposition"

So exactly like yesterday then? When Chelsea created 1 half good opportunity all night which would have been a regulation save if not for the deflection.

When pundits and commentators with no allegiance to City, or sometimes actively against City, say after the game they've never seen Chelsea create so little, or that they were hanging on for the whole game, but you think we didn't nullify them then it's clear you only see what you want to see.

 

[City_Sean]

We lost at Monaco because Pep was pragmatic and played Fernandinho, a more defensive midfielder than Yaya.

The fact that people like you can't see that this team is most defensively secure when we play an attacking lineup which pins the opposition back and controls possession is actually quite sad at this point. It's not new anymore, we've been seeing this for 9 months.


"When people talk about pragmatism it's so you nullify your opposition"

So exactly like yesterday then? When Chelsea created 1 half good opportunity all night which would have been a regulation save if not for the deflection.

When pundits and commentators with no allegiance to City, or sometimes actively against City, say after the game they've never seen Chelsea create so little, or that they were hanging on for the whole game, but you think we didn't nullify them then it's clear you only see what you want to see.

Chelsea looked far more threatening in the second half than we did and it was evident with the chance Hazard missed. It's hilarious that you can actually defend that shower of shite that we served up last night.

 

[blueinsa]

We lost at Monaco because Pep was pragmatic and played Fernandinho, a more defensive midfielder than Yaya.

The fact that people like you can't see that this team is most defensively secure when we play an attacking lineup which pins the opposition back and controls possession is actually quite sad at this point. It's not new anymore, we've been seeing this for 9 months.


"When people talk about pragmatism it's so you nullify your opposition"

So exactly like yesterday then? When Chelsea created 1 half good opportunity all night which would have been a regulation save if not for the deflection.

When pundits and commentators with no allegiance to City, or sometimes actively against City, say after the game they've never seen Chelsea create so little, or that they were hanging on for the whole game, but you think we didn't nullify them then it's clear you only see what you want to see.

Spot on!

 

[Powello]

I Wonder if vinny has suffered any after effects.

 

[blueinsa]

Chelsea looked far more threatening in the second half than we did and it was evident with the chance Hazard missed. It's hilarious that you can actually defend that shower of shite that we served up last night.

They had that one chance on the break in 45 mins.

The rest of that half we dominated the possession and we played the game in their half.

Our defenders had nothing to do and Willy neither and that's because we boss the possession and we play attacking football.

Your trouble is you think a team that sits back and defends well under pressure is the better side and if that's your bag then fair enough but its not Pep's and thanks fuck it isnt either.

 

[Marvin]

I Wonder if vinny has suffered any after effects.

I was waiting for something to go in those last few minutes when he looked very tired. Sure he will be sore in 24 hours time. For some reason, muscle soreness tends to kick in a little later. Will we play him against Hull, or play safe. Probably down to the player to see what he thinks

Massive plus for us having Kompany back. I'd given up waiting for him to recover.

 

[City_Sean]

They had that one chance on the break in 45 mins.

The rest of that half we dominated the possession and we played the game in their half.

Our defenders had nothing to do and Willy neither and that's because we boss the possession and we play attacking football.

Your trouble is you think a team that sits back and defends well under pressure is the better side and if that's your bag then fair enough but its not Pep's and thanks fuck it isnt either.

I don't think that at all, I simply refuse to tow this hilarious line of "we've had more poessession so it was an excellent performance." We were shite. As we have been in the majority of it games this season, we play attacking football that is so pedestrian we could still be playing now and wouldn't have scored.

Standards have massively slipped, and we're miles from where we need to be, and a performance like last night shouldn't offer encouragement.

 

[Benarbia]

2 home wins in 2017 pretty piss poor tbh

 

[domalino]

Goals conceded since Caballero came in:

MUN 3
MCI 6
TOT 6
CHE 9
CPA 9
WAT 10
LEI 10
EVE 11
STO 11
SOU 11
BUR 11
SUN 11
LIV 12
WBA 12
MID 12
ARS 13
HUL 14
SWA 15
BOU 17
WHU 21

And we've had an infinitely harder schedule than either Tottenham or United.



Just a dose of reality for anyone who actually thinks the defence under Guardiola is a shambles.

 

[blueinsa]

I don't think that at all, I simply refuse to tow this hilarious line of "we've had more poessession so it was an excellent performance." We were shite. As we have been in the majority of it games this season, we play attacking football that is so pedestrian we could still be playing now and wouldn't have scored.

Standards have massively slipped, and we're miles from where we need to be, and a performance like last night shouldn't offer encouragement.

Again ask Conte or his players if they felt we attacked like pedestrians last night?

Standards haven't slipped massively as we scraped 4th last season and we sit 4th now but football wise, i feel we are miles better than last season i honestly do.

Even BT sports who fucking hate us complimented our attacking play last night with Hoddle of all people saying its the best there is.

 

[domalino]

2 home wins in 2017 pretty piss poor tbh

.....We've only had 5 home games in 2017. The 3 we didn't win was a 2-2 draw vs. Spurs (with referee cheating us) and 1-1 draw with liverpool and (admittedly disappointing) 0-0 with Stoke.

 

[crystal_mais]

I was obviously disappointed with the result - but fuck me. Some people need to give their heads a wobble. We had the most chances and its only our incompetence in front of goal that cost us points.
Sane - 1 on 1
Aguero - 2 chances
Fernandinho & Stones
Kompany - hit bar

We in some ways gave Chelsea the hardest game of their lives which forced them to go defensive. Once Pep gets his men, watch us fly

 

[oakiecokie]

I was waiting for something to go in those last few minutes when he looked very tired. Sure he will be sore in 24 hours time. For some reason, muscle soreness tends to kick in a little later. Will we play him against Hull, or play safe. Probably down to the player to see what he thinks

Massive plus for us having Kompany back. I'd given up waiting for him to recover.

If the guy can stay fit without injuries what a fucking boost that would be.Last night he was back to his very best and what a performance that was.Perhaps Pep has decided all along not to rush him back and its hopefully payed dividends.IMO he wont play against Hull but more than likely he`ll be on the bench for no other reason than possibly tiredness after that long time out.

 

[Benarbia]

.....We've only had 4 home games in 2017.

Ok let me rephrase that. Two wins at home this year come against dross.