Chelsea (a) post match thread

How much to get rid of your whiny arse for the night?
Sorry mate but I am sick of spending a fortune flying round the country to watch slow boring build up play that patently doesn't work. And don't just say "don't go then" I have been going 35 years and whilst we are in such a lucky position compared to most of that we are not making he most of it. Pep has no different tactics. They had no interest in attacking second half so we keep all our defenders and defensive midfielders on - why?
 
We haven't got a terrible squad. We've got a great squad which lacks desire and determination.

It's not about ability, it's that not winning doesn't hurt us enough.
We haven't got a great squad. Delph, Navas, Clichy, Caballero and Fernandinho wouldn't be starting for a team with a 'great squad'. He's made some errors has Pep (the keeper one has killed us), but generally speaking, we create a tonne of chances and don't concede too many clear cut ones. We are just so poor in both boxes and defensively it's so clearly a personnel issue that we are going to have to give him the benefit of the doubt until next season.
 
Conti hasn't got a bunch of geriatric playing week in week out or has to play against 12 he has had referees on there side all season and the main one was at our place!

Agree but why wasn't the ageing squad addressed after last season?
 
Realistically we need a minimum of:
_ 1x goalie (£25m)
- 3x full backs (3x £20m)
- 2x centre backs (2x £40m)
- 2x midfielders (2x £30m)
- 2x forwards (3 if Sergio goes) (2/3x £50m)

Total of about £325-375m as a minimum and means recruiting 10 or 11 players and that's not accounting for the players we have to get rid of.

Does anybody have the confidence in Txiki to achieve this. I don't.

Next season could be another one of those "next year Rodders we'll be millionaires" type like this one is.

Nowhere near amount of money, pep will identify targets he knows are good enough a fraction of the cost. We will spend big on one player in each area for those that are 1st choice. I would be surprised if we exceeded £200m
 
Can only really beat a team like Chelsea when you play at a much higher pace and keep the tempo up for longer periods. Our passing requires too many touches (certain players still have a rather dubious first touch) and those fractions of a second across the pitch allow teams to shuffle over and retain formation far too easily. We need four players (and Jesus back) who can play at that much higher pace.
 
I'm struggling to get my head around a fair bit of what is being written here. It's obviously frustrating that we lost, all the more so coming on the back of essentially tossing two points away at Arsenal. But the performance today was far better. First half, some of the football was excellent, and we were cutting through their lines almost at will. Conte was obviously worried about it, hence why he brought Matic on. But we played into their hands by gifting them two goals through poor individual mistakes (as ever).

Once they managed to get in at half-time ahead (undeservedly) and make the sub, it was always going to be difficult in the second half as they just dropped deep, closed off any space behind and tried to keep us at bay. And it's something they're fucking good at- it's one of the reasons they've been pissing the league since Autumn. The idea that we should be able to carve them open at will when they're playing like that is unrealistic. And yet we did still create opportunities - Fernandinho missed a gilt-edged chance, Stones did too, and had a clear header he should have done better with, Vinny hit the bar, and Aguero had the chance at the end. That's five good/very good chances in a single half against the top side in the country, away from home, when they're just set up to defend. And it leaves aside the other 'half' chances where we got in, put balls acroos the box but they were dealt with through good defending.

So the criticism today seems a bit misplaced to me. There was nothing naive about the way we played - had we been more 'pragmatic', defended deeper, stuck Fernando in midfield to 'shore things up' etc., there's still every chance that Willy would have been called on to try to save a simple shot straight at him, or Fernandinho to judge a tackle in the box. No system is ever going to stop that.

You could perhaps argue that he might have made the subs earlier. That's fair enough. But we were well on top, and there was fuck all space for Sterling to try and run into anyway. So I can understand why you would want to keep on those players who can produce something from in front of their defence - i.e. Silva, De Bruyne.

Shit, even the criticism of our set-pieces, which is usually warranted, wasn't tonight - three of our chances in the second half all came directly from corners or free-kicks.
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Saved one from Kun, we hit the bar, Stones chance whilst Kompany was being dragged down are just a few chances, plus Aguero first half, Fernandinho first half.
Yes - but they were ones we missed it easy for keeper. I agree we had more chances - what I meant was we didn't make the keeper work enough and that's the frustration
 
Sorry mate but I am sick of spending a fortune flying round the country to watch slow boring build up play that patently doesn't work. And don't just say "don't go then" I have been going 35 years and whilst we are in such a lucky position compared to most of that we are not making he most of it. Pep has no different tactics. They had no interest in attacking second half so we keep all our defenders and defensive midfielders on - why?

Pep is the best in the business and over the coming years you will look back at nights like this and think of your over reactions and just laugh!
 
Right so kompany was partly responsible for the first goal a delp did fuck all of note in the game other than play for the first time in ages, very complicated stuff
What, you mean a defender trying to block a shot? Who'd of thought it eh? Who's delp?
 

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