Chelsea-Liverpool, United-Leeds, Brighton-Palace all off, rest of the games on (pg 128)

twosips said:
If people have to keep explaining why it's such a big deal, then maybe they're not realising just how much things have changed. It quite simply isn't a big deal for many, many people, myself included. Historically I get why it is, I suppose, but it absolutely doesn't feel like it's something I'll ever care about because there is simply no emotional attachment to the royal family for lots of people.

This is nothing more than the passing of another famous person for many of us. Admittedly an ultra famous person, probably the most famous person in the world, but still just that. She did her job very well and many people obviously love her, but I don't think it's unfair to say that the overriding feeling for an awful lot of people is that her passing will not change their lives in any way at all. A trending news topic, 'aww that's sad, she seemed nice', and that's it. Life cracked on almost immediately

She didn't 'give' many of us anything. At least that's how it feels. The monarchy feels incredibly antiquated, out of touch, and basically unimportant, for many people these days. Lots of the younger generation just see it all as tourism boosting, and vaguely know about her knighting people etc, and maybe the queen's speech (which I've genuinely never watched, because why would I? There's good films on and it's Christmas day...) - none of these things are going to particularly inspire passionate feelings are they?

To me, and I'm genuinely not trying to be disrespectful, because fuck me I can't be arsed with a cancelling, City finally beating Spurs would be a more memorable day. It really would. Because City have a direct impact on my life and football is something I think about every day. I think of the Queen absolutely never, unless she was all over the news, because she had absolutely no bearing on my day to day life in any shape or form whatsoever. At very least that's the perception for many. If people want to argue that isn't true, then go for it, but that isn't my fault. It's a result of the increasingly detached relevance the royal family have to modern society.

To be honest, maybe you're right. Maybe it is a big deal, but not in the way you think it is. Maybe it's real significance is that her passing will slowly signify the end of the monarchy as something of any relevance at all in the modern age. Historic, yes, but particularly emotional and pertinent to many of us? Nope. I think it's quite telling how many people are upset over football being cancelled. If this really had shook the nation, no one would be arsed about it being off, but ultimately it just hasn't. Vast majority cracked on with their day within half hour I'd guess. Sorry if this bothers anyone. Just trying to explain what it feels like on the other side.
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Brilliant post, sums up what I want to say far more eloquently than I could.
 
I'm lost without the football. Luckily I like cricket but football is such a huge part of life that I genuinely don't know what to do with myself. I am in mourning but over the loss of our national sport not the Queen! It's a baffling decision to cancel games but like with covid I will just have to find something else to do instead.
 
The more I think about it, the more I think avoiding an (inter)national reckoning for Liverpool fan behaviour (and a black mark on Liverpool’s “unblemished” reputation) was a not insignificant part of the PL’s decision to postpone this weekend’s fixtures.
 
twosips said:
If people have to keep explaining why it's such a big deal, then maybe they're not realising just how much things have changed. It quite simply isn't a big deal for many, many people, myself included. Historically I get why it is, I suppose, but it absolutely doesn't feel like it's something I'll ever care about because there is simply no emotional attachment to the royal family for lots of people.

This is nothing more than the passing of another famous person for many of us. Admittedly an ultra famous person, probably the most famous person in the world, but still just that. She did her job very well and many people obviously love her, but I don't think it's unfair to say that the overriding feeling for an awful lot of people is that her passing will not change their lives in any way at all. A trending news topic, 'aww that's sad, she seemed nice', and that's it. Life cracked on almost immediately

She didn't 'give' many of us anything. At least that's how it feels. The monarchy feels incredibly antiquated, out of touch, and basically unimportant, for many people these days. Lots of the younger generation just see it all as tourism boosting, and vaguely know about her knighting people etc, and maybe the queen's speech (which I've genuinely never watched, because why would I? There's good films on and it's Christmas day...) - none of these things are going to particularly inspire passionate feelings are they?

To me, and I'm genuinely not trying to be disrespectful, because fuck me I can't be arsed with a cancelling, City finally beating Spurs would be a more memorable day. It really would. Because City have a direct impact on my life and football is something I think about every day. I think of the Queen absolutely never, unless she was all over the news, because she had absolutely no bearing on my day to day life in any shape or form whatsoever. At very least that's the perception for many. If people want to argue that isn't true, then go for it, but that isn't my fault. It's a result of the increasingly detached relevance the royal family have to modern society.

To be honest, maybe you're right. Maybe it is a big deal, but not in the way you think it is. Maybe it's real significance is that her passing will slowly signify the end of the monarchy as something of any relevance at all in the modern age. Historic, yes, but particularly emotional and pertinent to many of us? Nope. I think it's quite telling how many people are upset over football being cancelled. If this really had shook the nation, no one would be arsed about it being off, but ultimately it just hasn't. Vast majority cracked on with their day within half hour I'd guess. Sorry if this bothers anyone. Just trying to explain what it feels like on the other side.
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I’m sure it depends on your age, myself being born in the 50’s I’ll certainly show my respect.
Many of the comments on here to me are cringeworthy but that’s probably due to my age and upbringing and I’m certainly no royalist. Having spent most of my working life overseas in many countries it’s amazing how the Queen and royal family are seen and appreciated.

Your comments don’t bother me at all neither would it if you made a vlog on the subject.
 
SebastianBlue said:
The more I think about it, the more I think avoiding an (inter)national reckoning for Liverpool fan behaviour (and a black mark on Liverpool’s “unblemished” reputation) was a not insignificant part of the PL’s decision to postpone this weekend’s fixtures.
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I dont think it will just be liverpool. 50 plus thousand fans at each ground won't all be ardent royalists and they'd be afraid of some booing etc.

Either way its a so called democracy and people should be able to do what they like and I actually think everyone, including those who don't like the Royals, would have been very respectful.

The heads of the league will all be hoping they get an invite to the funeral now for avoiding any embarrassment.
 
twosips said:
If people have to keep explaining why it's such a big deal, then maybe they're not realising just how much things have changed. It quite simply isn't a big deal for many, many people, myself included. Historically I get why it is, I suppose, but it absolutely doesn't feel like it's something I'll ever care about because there is simply no emotional attachment to the royal family for lots of people.

This is nothing more than the passing of another famous person for many of us. Admittedly an ultra famous person, probably the most famous person in the world, but still just that. She did her job very well and many people obviously love her, but I don't think it's unfair to say that the overriding feeling for an awful lot of people is that her passing will not change their lives in any way at all. A trending news topic, 'aww that's sad, she seemed nice', and that's it. Life cracked on almost immediately

She didn't 'give' many of us anything. At least that's how it feels. The monarchy feels incredibly antiquated, out of touch, and basically unimportant, for many people these days. Lots of the younger generation just see it all as tourism boosting, and vaguely know about her knighting people etc, and maybe the queen's speech (which I've genuinely never watched, because why would I? There's good films on and it's Christmas day...) - none of these things are going to particularly inspire passionate feelings are they?

To me, and I'm genuinely not trying to be disrespectful, because fuck me I can't be arsed with a cancelling, City finally beating Spurs would be a more memorable day. It really would. Because City have a direct impact on my life and football is something I think about every day. I think of the Queen absolutely never, unless she was all over the news, because she had absolutely no bearing on my day to day life in any shape or form whatsoever. At very least that's the perception for many. If people want to argue that isn't true, then go for it, but that isn't my fault. It's a result of the increasingly detached relevance the royal family have to modern society.

To be honest, maybe you're right. Maybe it is a big deal, but not in the way you think it is. Maybe it's real significance is that her passing will slowly signify the end of the monarchy as something of any relevance at all in the modern age. Historic, yes, but particularly emotional and pertinent to many of us? Nope. I think it's quite telling how many people are upset over football being cancelled. If this really had shook the nation, no one would be arsed about it being off, but ultimately it just hasn't. Vast majority cracked on with their day within half hour I'd guess. Sorry if this bothers anyone. Just trying to explain what it feels like on the other side.
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People shouldn't have to explain why it's a big deal.

And you can be pissed off about the football being cancelled - as I personally am - and still appreciate how big a deal it is when the only monarch many of us have known passes and a new King replaces her as Head of State.

As to you comments about younger generation - my 21 year old daughters get it and one of them is equally hacked of she and I are not going to the game today. Mind you my wife and daughters have done visits inside Buck Palace (when it's been open to the public) but none of us are Monarchists or Republicans and you don't have to be to get the significance of this time.

If the late Queen had wanted the football cancelled, the official mourning guidance amd the Government would have said so; they didn't and the football authorities got it wrong, again.
 
ysmsa said:
Most are respectful and shocked at the news. Its the selective decision making that impacts some and not others that is baffling.

I predicted what is happening now would be the case when postponements were first suggested.
The occasion would have been honoured respectfully at City jointly with Spuds.

It looks like there is something in the fact a certain Club may not have done the same and caused outrage and embarrassment to the game as being a factor in the decision.
You don't openly boo the National Anthem for years (God save the Queen dont forget) and suddenly change because the Queen has passed.
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You arent suggesting ALL football in this country is postponed this weekend due to the dippers !!






PS I agree with you I think the fact that the dippers are at home has influenced this
 
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