gordondaviesmoustache said:Yesterday didn't represent a seismic shift in the tectonic plates of football.
Last Sunday did.
Wouldn't for me, the league is everything, it shows how good a team is. Liverpool (5th) and Chelsea (6Th) have won the CL which shows that it's not a reflection on the best team in the country, let alone Europe.i8rags said:Last night I thought not, then I thought if next year we won the FA cup and were champions of europe it would surpass this season.Skashion said:Got to go with Chelsea...fuckers...
The harder trophy to win? Not a chance based on the quality of the football team that wins it.Skashion said:Is a good point too. The Champions League trophy is the one we need to win though. It's the ultimate goal, and your argument aside - and I appreciate its validity, surely on a trophy-for-trophy basis we'd swap league titles for Champions League titles. It's the harder trophy to win. There's no club, I think I'm right in saying, who've won more Champions Leagues than national titles. Slur Taggart has had eighteen attempts at the Champions League and won it twice, and twenty attempts at the Premier League and won it twelve times.gordondaviesmoustache said:Yesterday didn't represent a seismic shift in the tectonic plates of football.
Last Sunday did.
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Notts Forest, apparently have, I thought they'd won three titles.
Are you serious, they finished 6th and by rights should never have won the CL. They papered over the cracks. The had two missed penalties against them in the semi and in the final that would have certainly meant they had a poor season. They would have been fucked with the CL income next season.i8rags said:Just read your post again. A poor season is the most ridiculous thing I've read in a while.
Madness. I really can't get my head around that at all. To win the CL is more luck than judgement. Yes, that makes it harder to win, but it's hard to win the half time raffle, I've had a go a few hundred times and not won it. Cups competitions are similar, they are a lottery.Skashion said:Yes, it is, undoubtedly. One of the best managers in the world with one of the most stable and and domestically-dominant sides has only managed it twice out of eighteen attempts. I don't even know how many attempts there must have been by London clubs at winning it but to suffice to say there'll be dozens, and yet only one win. I would swap Champions League trophies for league trophies without a second's hesitation.Stoned Rose said:The CL is harder to win than the premier league????!!!!!
The CL has just been contested by the second best team in Germany and the sixth best in England. Neither entered the competition as reigning champions of their own country. With it being 'cup' based it's open to the best/most deserving team not always winning. You can avoid better teams depending on how the draw pans out.
The prem rolls over 38 games, you play everyone twice. There is none of this 'two legs' and 'away goals' bollocks. It's miles harder to come out as top dog under those circumstances than under CL circumstances.
And to top it off City slapped both Bayern and Chelsea at home this season.