Chelsea post match thread

[Tom_mcfc]

Pellet ruin made the right choices yesterday. Anyone who can't see that, well let's just say, it's clear why you aren't employed in the field.

I take it you are high up in football then fella?

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

Not sure what irritated me the most yesterday.

Danny Murphy’s constant reference to City’s naive, high line defending, or City continually proving him right.

 

[YaYa's Left Peg]

Not in the circumstances mate no.

It's exactly what I have been saying about this bloke being proven true.

Some said he was 'protecting' the kids by not using them previously. I said that had already been proven not to be the case, by his use of Pozo last season, suddenly thrown into the team, playing out of position against top level, big, strong, players. The manager doesn't care, these kids are just pawns, to be used as he sees fit. Yesterday he was happy to chuck a whole bunch in, away from home vs the Champions. He hung them out to dry when it suited him, exactly as I said he would.

Some have argued previously, that the reason most of these have barely had 5 mins between them, is because it was 'too big a risk' to use any. I have argued that there is no risk at all. Yesterday a side containing mostly kids, held Chelsea until half time, despite being constanly let down by utterly shit 'experienced' players. The idea that one or two of these coming off the bench, over the past year or so, would have mortally wounded the first team, has been completely shattered & exposed for the utter nonsense many of us have always known it to be.

Then we compare these lads at their stage of development & think of all the kids who 'could' have played over the recent years, who were physically more suited to the task & have been discarded without even a trial run. Some written off as 'no hopers' because they allowed their standards & effort to slip during periods in the wilderness.

Then we consider the players picked, shoehorned into a 442 in order to suit his pathetic lack of tactical organisational skills, & as unbalanced in makeup, as many of his senior teams. It cried out for Kean Bryan to protect the awful, disgraceful Demichelis & Kolarov, but he picked a group of midfield kids who have barely made a decent tackle between them in their careers, to play against Hazard, Fabregas, Willian & Pedro & a totally inexperienced cb to play vs Diego Costa, next to two fucking clowns, in front of a shite goalkeeper.

The kids, I think, did themselves proud & nothing but positive can come of this from their perspective. This is not due to planning. It is due to their talent, & sheer luck that nothing happened to mentally scar them, as in the case of Boyata, when Mancini threw him into teams with similar disregard to his development & basically destroyed him.

Tosin was clearly shitting his pants & could barely kick the ball straight, but arguably defended better than the other 3. Well done lad. Barker was clearly nervous as fuck but still managed to skin a top fullback alive when given a decent pass. Those two will benefit from just getting on the pitch I think. Celina however, stuck out in no mans' land, didn't benefit. The two Spanish kids were getting used to it & particularly A Garcia looked like he's got a decent hour in him & was excellent at recovering the ball, very very promising.

Tbf to Pellegrini, he is probably the only person in the world who would have picked Faupala, who thouroughly doesn't deserve to be there on merit & totally unbalanced the team, but he put in a game effort. I suspect that will turn out to be his 'Macheda' moment, but well played to the lad & I hope I'm wrong. It is early days for him, tbf.

Fantastic that the kids have finally got started. I'm truly delighted for them, & we have a load more who could have done just as well or better.

Meanwhile, I'm counting the days for this con artist of a manager to leave & wish he had gone two seasons ago. He is completely unfit for the job & the luckiest man alive.

An absolute top post.

Yesterday proved to me at least that with judicious and skillful use of some of our excellent youngsters this season, we could have lessened quite a bit of the impact of the injury crisis (and in some cases avoided the crises by giving players proper recovery time rather than rush them back).

Pell might be a charming man, but he is not a particularly good football manager.

Hopefully we will see a completely different approach under Pep.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Vindication for yesterday does not come from a win in Kiev. Since when does reaching the QF of a tournament = success? Vindication comes in the form of winning the trophy which this team, managed by this inept idiot has zero chance of.

Rubbish. For one thing, you can only win by getting through the next round. And while I doubt we're going to win it, every victory and progression through as many rounds as possible is good financially, for our coefficient and for our image.

 

[Chippy_boy]

You're picking the entirely wrong man for your anger.

He had no choice but to pick that side yesterday.

I think that's rubbish mate. He could have played Aguero, Silva, Sterling, Fernandino, Kompany and Hart. Or just some of them. Sterling can hardly be worn out, can he - he's not been playing 90 minutes week in week out and he's only 21. And some of them would still have been available on Wednesday.

He decided not to risk any of them and basically tossed the FA Cup away, a piece of silverware that we conceivably might have won. And for what?

Personally, I think we'll lose in Kiev on Wednesday and I think we'll lose to Liverpool on Sunday as well.

Incidentally, if we were to do that and the we lost away to Liverpool on the following Wednesday (which surely we might), then that would be a run of 6 consecutive defeats. I wonder when that last happened to City?

 

[waspish]

I think that's rubbish mate. He could have played Aguero, Silva, Sterling, Fernandino, Kompany and Hart. Or just some of them. Sterling can hardly be worn out, can he - he's not been playing 90 minutes week in week out and he's only 21. And some of them would still have been available on Wednesday.

He decided not to risk any of them and basically tossed the FA Cup away, a piece of silverware that we conceivably might have won. And for what?

Personally, I think we'll lose in Kiev on Wednesday and I think we'll lose to Liverpool on Sunday as well.

Incidentally, if we were to do that and the we lost away to Liverpool on the following Wednesday (which surely we might), then that would be a run of 6 consecutive defeats. I wonder when that last happened to City?

What's worst playing a full strength side go through to the next round and possibly getting injuries to a key player which will impact on the rest of the season.

 

[OrigamiNinja]

Rubbish. For one thing, you can only win by getting through the next round. And while I doubt we're going to win it, every victory and progression through as many rounds as possible is good financially, for our coefficient and for our image.

I generally like your posts on here, well thought out and very informative, particularly on the aspects of FFP etc. However this is one of the most depressing things I have read. The day I care more about this than my club winning a trophy is the day I start watching another sport.

 

[flb]

Rubbish. For one thing, you can only win by getting through the next round. And while I doubt we're going to win it, every victory and progression through as many rounds as possible is good financially, for our coefficient and for our image.

So having a good coefficient is the key to winning the trophy then? Fuck me , here is me thinking that putting the ball in the net was the way to win it, so its all down to what pot we are in then whether we win it or not?

Do you think it did our image any good last year when he played Milner in a midfield two against the best team on the planet, or getting spanked by CSKA at home last year?

 

[flb]

I generally like your posts on here, well thought out and very informative, particularly on the aspects of FFP etc. However this is one of the most depressing things I have read. The day I care more about this than my club winning a trophy is the day I start watching another sport.

Sad isn't it mate.

Not you by the way PB!

 

[Chippy_boy]

What's worst playing a full strength side go through to the next round and possibly getting injuries to a key player which will impact on the rest of the season.

Did losing yesterday not impact the rest of our season?

Now if he'd wanted to rest Aguero for Wednesday, or maybe Silva. Or perhaps Silva and Aguero, then OK I could understand and tolerate that. But to put out a side like we fielded yesterday, I think it was a bloody disgrace to be honest. Maybe it's because Pellegrini is not English or even European that he doesn't understand the significance of the FA Cup, but it is the 2nd highest honour in the the UK and part of the game's rich history.