Chelsea post match thread

[1961_vintage]

it's about time people listened to the fans

Only when they become accountable for the results. They are not. So those that are determine priorities, plus player selection and tactics. Simple.

 

[mekonmcfc]

Only when they become accountable for the results. They are not. So those that are determine priorities, plus player selection and tactics. Simple.

it was sort of tongue in cheek... i feel for the fans that paid good money for the trip

 

[schfc6]

like i say play the weakened side in Kiev, we are never going to win the champions league with this clown. I'm sure most fans would prefer an FA cup final than get smashed by someone in the next round of the champions league

As I say, the owners, Pellegrini's employers totally disagree regards the F A Cup. Pellegrini has taken much worse squads deep in CL.

 

[mekonmcfc]

As I say, the owners, Pellegrini's employers totally disagree regards the F A Cup. Pellegrini has taken much worse squads deep in CL.

the only way he will be vindicated is IF we win on wednesday and win the cup on sunday. If not he'll look an even bigger tit

 

[George Hannah]

Disgusted in Pellegrini yesterday, he has disgraced the club. The price of being a top team is playing lots of games in all competitions. Chelsea played in Europe on wednesday and again played a full strength team against us. We are never going to win the champions league so why not play the weakened side in Kiev ?
Our young players did themselves proud in what was always going to be a good hiding. The senior players let themselves down. I think Fernando probably only one with any credit, and if he doesnt play Hart in the final then he can go on sunday and let Kidd finish the season.

If we beat Kiev and the dippers I'm sorry to say your voice will join mine and many more in the BM wilderness. Our reward to be excoriated by the true supporters on here.

 

[mekonmcfc]

If we beat Kiev and the dippers I'm sorry to say your voice will join mine and many more in the BM wilderness. Our reward to be excoriated by the true supporters on here.

yes as i said just above, the only way he is vindicated is to win weds and sunday

 

[bondsman]

the only way he will be vindicated is IF we win on wednesday and win the cup on sunday. If not he'll look an even bigger tit

He will indeed. Some seem to think we will roll Kiev over just by picking our strongest 11. I hope we do but every time mp faces a team with a plan who are up for it we tend to lose. Can't see this being an easy game at all.

 

[Jazzman]

but what does frustrate me about Pellegrini is that the situation of 13 fit players could possibly have been avoided by a more astute use of the wider, younger, squad earlier in the season.

I think this is a very valid point. For sure the manager carry responsibility for having only 13 fit players. His "asset" management can be criticised.

 

[schfc6]

the only way he will be vindicated is IF we win on wednesday and win the cup on sunday. If not he'll look an even bigger tit

If only Pellegrini had the benefit of hindsight.

Would he have been vindicated had he started a full stregnth side beat Chelsea but lost Aguero & Kompany to injury? Thus losing Wednesday and Sunday?

You understand the injury crisis right? He may still lose, he may lose both and some of it will be his fault. Some fault will be placed on underperformance players, some on a unrivalled injury crisis and some on a woefully unbalanced squad.

If we had a fully fit squad, he binned off the FA Cup, then lost two more games it would be his fault. Facts are he won't. So it's not all on him. If he plays Caballero though, that's suicide.

As for the FA Cup, we must have some of the most fickle fans about. No doubt the sales fans saying we disrespected the cup will be the same ones not attending finals or semi finals due to cost or time. Like it or not, the FA Cup is a joke now. Most teams make huge changes for it, we did no different, just our squad players are all injured.

Liverpool made 11 changes against West Ham. Only their fans are too interested in their own team to listen to the idiotic media.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Hi Nev,

Are you happy that we gave some of the EDS lads a game today?

I know you've been banging that particular drum for a while now.

Not in the circumstances mate no.

It's exactly what I have been saying about this bloke being proven true.

Some said he was 'protecting' the kids by not using them previously. I said that had already been proven not to be the case, by his use of Pozo last season, suddenly thrown into the team, playing out of position against top level, big, strong, players. The manager doesn't care, these kids are just pawns, to be used as he sees fit. Yesterday he was happy to chuck a whole bunch in, away from home vs the Champions. He hung them out to dry when it suited him, exactly as I said he would.

Some have argued previously, that the reason most of these have barely had 5 mins between them, is because it was 'too big a risk' to use any. I have argued that there is no risk at all. Yesterday a side containing mostly kids, held Chelsea until half time, despite being constanly let down by utterly shit 'experienced' players. The idea that one or two of these coming off the bench, over the past year or so, would have mortally wounded the first team, has been completely shattered & exposed for the utter nonsense many of us have always known it to be.

Then we compare these lads at their stage of development & think of all the kids who 'could' have played over the recent years, who were physically more suited to the task & have been discarded without even a trial run. Some written off as 'no hopers' because they allowed their standards & effort to slip during periods in the wilderness.

Then we consider the players picked, shoehorned into a 442 in order to suit his pathetic lack of tactical organisational skills, & as unbalanced in makeup, as many of his senior teams. It cried out for Kean Bryan to protect the awful, disgraceful Demichelis & Kolarov, but he picked a group of midfield kids who have barely made a decent tackle between them in their careers, to play against Hazard, Fabregas, Willian & Pedro & a totally inexperienced cb to play vs Diego Costa, next to two fucking clowns, in front of a shite goalkeeper.

The kids, I think, did themselves proud & nothing but positive can come of this from their perspective. This is not due to planning. It is due to their talent, & sheer luck that nothing happened to mentally scar them, as in the case of Boyata, when Mancini threw him into teams with similar disregard to his development & basically destroyed him.

Tosin was clearly shitting his pants & could barely kick the ball straight, but arguably defended better than the other 3. Well done lad. Barker was clearly nervous as fuck but still managed to skin a top fullback alive when given a decent pass. Those two will benefit from just getting on the pitch I think. Celina however, stuck out in no mans' land, didn't benefit. The two Spanish kids were getting used to it & particularly A Garcia looked like he's got a decent hour in him & was excellent at recovering the ball, very very promising.

Tbf to Pellegrini, he is probably the only person in the world who would have picked Faupala, who thouroughly doesn't deserve to be there on merit & totally unbalanced the team, but he put in a game effort. I suspect that will turn out to be his 'Macheda' moment, but well played to the lad & I hope I'm wrong. It is early days for him, tbf.

Fantastic that the kids have finally got started. I'm truly delighted for them, & we have a load more who could have done just as well or better.

Meanwhile, I'm counting the days for this con artist of a manager to leave & wish he had gone two seasons ago. He is completely unfit for the job & the luckiest man alive.