Chelsea Thread 2013/14

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Well that was an interesting last 8 pages, so in summary Castiel's a racist, Fetlocks is over 50, Zola doesn't care who likes Chelsea, aguero93:20 think's Zola's a **** for constant digs at City and Castiel think's Bluemoon is as bad as a Manchester United forum. Glad we got that sorted.
 
Kun Aguero said:
Well that was an interesting last 8 pages, so in summary Castiel's a racist, Fetlocks is over 50, Zola doesn't care who likes Chelsea, aguero93:20 think's Zola's a **** for constant digs at City and Castiel think's Bluemoon is as bad as a Manchester United forum. Glad we got that sorted.
I never said Castiel is a racist. I don't think Zola's a **** either for having digs at city, I think he's a **** for getting offended when he does it on a city forum and it comes back.
 
laeth said:
prestonibbo_mcfc said:
Typical. We're not lauding Chelsea from the roofs, a bit of critique and all of a sudden we're rags.

Think it's more to do with some posters on here labeling Chelsea, it's fans and it's players as racists. Which is a load of utter rubbish.

Labelling ALL Chelsea fans as racist is, indeed, utter rubbish. Pointing out that they, historically, had close links to the National Front and back in the 70's and 80's did indeed have a fair few racist fans (more than your average club) is not utter rubbish however.

As for their players being racist, again the pluralisation is a misnomer, however John Terry has been banned by the FA for making a racist remark. To therefore call him racist is, I'd have said, a fairly accurate label to apply.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Kun Aguero said:
Well that was an interesting last 8 pages, so in summary Castiel's a racist, Fetlocks is over 50, Zola doesn't care who likes Chelsea, aguero93:20 think's Zola's a **** for constant digs at City and Castiel think's Bluemoon is as bad as a Manchester United forum. Glad we got that sorted.
I never said Castiel is a racist. I don't think Zola's a **** either for having digs at city, I think he's a **** for getting offended when he does it on a city forum and it comes back.

Have a read through and see where I was having digs, I merely commented when someone said that Chelsea having a poor away following when they were shit that they were wrong and gave details, which they refused to believe, until one of your own stepped in.
 
zola said:
aguero93:20 said:
Kun Aguero said:
Well that was an interesting last 8 pages, so in summary Castiel's a racist, Fetlocks is over 50, Zola doesn't care who likes Chelsea, aguero93:20 think's Zola's a **** for constant digs at City and Castiel think's Bluemoon is as bad as a Manchester United forum. Glad we got that sorted.
I never said Castiel is a racist. I don't think Zola's a **** either for having digs at city, I think he's a **** for getting offended when he does it on a city forum and it comes back.

Have a read through and see where I was having digs, I merely commented when someone said that Chelsea having a poor away following when they were shit that they were wrong and gave details, which they refused to believe, until one of your own stepped in.

And what has been clarified is that on occasion Chelsea were able to get a decent following but in general, and on average, were very poor away from home and indeed at home - in comparison to many other clubs, and the level they were playing at.

It is entirely true that Chelsea without money would be level with the Fulhams and Crystal Palaces. Nothing more, nothing less. Money has defined the club.
 
zola said:
aguero93:20 said:
Kun Aguero said:
Well that was an interesting last 8 pages, so in summary Castiel's a racist, Fetlocks is over 50, Zola doesn't care who likes Chelsea, aguero93:20 think's Zola's a **** for constant digs at City and Castiel think's Bluemoon is as bad as a Manchester United forum. Glad we got that sorted.
I never said Castiel is a racist. I don't think Zola's a **** either for having digs at city, I think he's a **** for getting offended when he does it on a city forum and it comes back.

Have a read through and see where I was having digs, I merely commented when someone said that Chelsea having a poor away following when they were shit that they were wrong and gave details, which they refused to believe, until one of your own stepped in.
zola said:
Thought they were a bit more normal here than United Fans, seems I was mistaken they're pretty much the same.
what was this?
 
Matty said:
laeth said:
prestonibbo_mcfc said:
Typical. We're not lauding Chelsea from the roofs, a bit of critique and all of a sudden we're rags.

Think it's more to do with some posters on here labeling Chelsea, it's fans and it's players as racists. Which is a load of utter rubbish.

Labelling ALL Chelsea fans as racist is, indeed, utter rubbish. Pointing out that they, historically, had close links to the National Front and back in the 70's and 80's did indeed have a fair few racist fans (more than your average club) is not utter rubbish however.

As for their players being racist, again the pluralisation is a misnomer, however John Terry has been banned by the FA for making a racist remark. To therefore call him racist is, I'd have said, a fairly accurate label to apply.

I'll go along with the fans position as their were a number of NF followers back in the day but we are talking 20+ years ago. As for Terry he was cleared in a court of law of saying any racist remarks. Due to the media stirring things up nicely along with the society of black lawyers and the likes of Rio Ferdinand piping up the FA felt they had to act, not because they could prove anything because nobody heard and even lip reading experts were split but because they think "probably" he did say something.

Now whether he did or didn't say something I don't know but to label someone racist off the back of "probably" is wrong.
 
zola said:
Matty said:
laeth said:
Think it's more to do with some posters on here labeling Chelsea, it's fans and it's players as racists. Which is a load of utter rubbish.

Labelling ALL Chelsea fans as racist is, indeed, utter rubbish. Pointing out that they, historically, had close links to the National Front and back in the 70's and 80's did indeed have a fair few racist fans (more than your average club) is not utter rubbish however.

As for their players being racist, again the pluralisation is a misnomer, however John Terry has been banned by the FA for making a racist remark. To therefore call him racist is, I'd have said, a fairly accurate label to apply.

I'll go along with the fans position as their were a number of NF followers back in the day but we are talking 20+ years ago. As for Terry he was cleared in a court of law of saying any racist remarks. Due to the media stirring things up nicely along with the society of black lawyers and the likes of Rio Ferdinand piping up the FA felt they had to act, not because they could prove anything because nobody heard and even lip reading experts were split but because they think "probably" he did say something.

Now whether he did or didn't say something I don't know but to label someone racist off the back of "probably" is wrong.
split opinion really, you can choose to believe anton Ferdinand or john terry.
 
laeth said:
prestonibbo_mcfc said:
Typical. We're not lauding Chelsea from the roofs, a bit of critique and all of a sudden we're rags.

Think it's more to do with some posters on here labeling Chelsea, it's fans and it's players as racists. Which is a load of utter rubbish.

No, it's nothing of the sort.
Some Chelsea wideboy came on here claiming that his team regularly brought 10,000 fans to Maine Road.
They didn't.
He then took objection to me pointing out that their average home crowd amazingly leapt from 13,000 to 30,000 overnight, which just happened to coincide with Roman's roubles arriving.
Which is true.
In the 70's and 80's, Chelsea were notorious for their far-right support.
John Terry was fined £220,000 and banned for four games for racial abuse.
So yes, they have racists in their fanbase and their team.
The same imbecile then compared us with rag fans - and you wonder why folk got pissed off with him?
 
zola said:
aguero93:20 said:
Kun Aguero said:
Well that was an interesting last 8 pages, so in summary Castiel's a racist, Fetlocks is over 50, Zola doesn't care who likes Chelsea, aguero93:20 think's Zola's a **** for constant digs at City and Castiel think's Bluemoon is as bad as a Manchester United forum. Glad we got that sorted.
I never said Castiel is a racist. I don't think Zola's a **** either for having digs at city, I think he's a **** for getting offended when he does it on a city forum and it comes back.

Have a read through and see where I was having digs, I merely commented when someone said that Chelsea having a poor away following when they were shit that they were wrong and gave details, which they refused to believe, until one of your own stepped in.

When we were in division two Chelsea were the only team to fill the old platt lane end.
 
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