Chelsea Thread 2013/14

[zola]

I never said Castiel is a racist. I don't think Zola's a **** either for having digs at city, I think he's a **** for getting offended when he does it on a city forum and it comes back.

Have a read through and see where I was having digs, I merely commented when someone said that Chelsea having a poor away following when they were shit that they were wrong and gave details, which they refused to believe, until one of your own stepped in.

Thought they were a bit more normal here than United Fans, seems I was mistaken they're pretty much the same.

what was this?

That was off the back of someone saying chelsea fans and players were racist, think my response was quite mild.

 

[DTKOAG]

Hope Castiel has not left the forum as he is a good poster on here.

Anyway Chelsea will be our biggest threat not only this year but for the next 2/3 years without a doubt.

Let's all be friends hey...

 

[aguero93:20]

Typical. We're not lauding Chelsea from the roofs, a bit of critique and all of a sudden we're rags.

Think it's more to do with some posters on here labeling Chelsea, it's fans and it's players as racists. Which is a load of utter rubbish.

No, it's nothing of the sort.
Some Chelsea wideboy came on here claiming that his team regularly brought 10,000 fans to Maine Road.
They didn't.
He then took objection to me pointing out that their average home crowd amazingly leapt from 13,000 to 30,000 overnight, which just happened to coincide with Roman's roubles arriving.
Which is true.
In the 70's and 80's, Chelsea were notorious for their far-right support.
John Terry was fined £220,000 and banned for four games for racial abuse.
So yes, they have racists in their fanbase and their team.
The same imbecile then compared us with rag fans - and you wonder why folk got pissed off with him?

and I'm a **** for thinking that he's a **** for taking issue with us getting pissed off over him acting like a ****.<br /><br />-- Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:04 pm --<br /><br />

Have a read through and see where I was having digs, I merely commented when someone said that Chelsea having a poor away following when they were shit that they were wrong and gave details, which they refused to believe, until one of your own stepped in.

Thought they were a bit more normal here than United Fans, seems I was mistaken they're pretty much the same.

what was this?

That was off the back of someone saying chelsea fans and players were racist, think my response was quite mild.

Mild? not here mate. Besides, some of the rags are worse for the racist shit.

 

[M18CTID]

Some clueless muppets on here.

Here are some facts: Season we were promoted at Bradford, Chelsea beat us 3-2 at our place and they had the whole Platt Lane and Kippax away section full. They also brought probably around 8k one Friday night for a league game - think Kerry Dixon scored for them - it was also arguably the best 'mob' anyone had ever brought to MR. If any City fan wants to dispute the facts about those two away followings then they need to give their heads a wobble.

As for the comment about Chelsea regularly taking 3 - 5k away that is utter bollocks. As a teenager (early 80's) I went with a mate to a few Chelsea away games in the North when City weren't playing and if they pulled a 1,000 - 1,500 in they were lucky

That would've amounted to close to 10,000. While some of their home crowds are open to criticism, you can't knock Chelsea's numbers in general for away games in the 80's. They pretty much always showed at Maine Road in good numbers - the only low turnout of theirs at ours that I can remember was a league game in February 1991 when much of the country was under a blanket of snow and ours was one of the few games that survived the weather. They even brought a good 3000-4000 for a low key league cup game at MR in October 1993 when we won 1-0 with a goal from Michel Vonk and the crowd was about 16k. A few weeks later we played them at the Bridge on a Monday night in the Premier League and I reckon there were no more than 400 or 500 City fans there - it was probably the lowest City away following I've ever been part of. That said, the crowd that night was only just over 10,000 so it was a poor turnout from both sides.

 

[zola]

Labelling ALL Chelsea fans as racist is, indeed, utter rubbish. Pointing out that they, historically, had close links to the National Front and back in the 70's and 80's did indeed have a fair few racist fans (more than your average club) is not utter rubbish however.

As for their players being racist, again the pluralisation is a misnomer, however John Terry has been banned by the FA for making a racist remark. To therefore call him racist is, I'd have said, a fairly accurate label to apply.

I'll go along with the fans position as their were a number of NF followers back in the day but we are talking 20+ years ago. As for Terry he was cleared in a court of law of saying any racist remarks. Due to the media stirring things up nicely along with the society of black lawyers and the likes of Rio Ferdinand piping up the FA felt they had to act, not because they could prove anything because nobody heard and even lip reading experts were split but because they think "probably" he did say something.

Now whether he did or didn't say something I don't know but to label someone racist off the back of "probably" is wrong.

split opinion really, you can choose to believe anton Ferdinand or john terry.

Thing is Anton didn't hear anything, he was wound up by the media and his lovely brother.

 

[Castiel]

Well that was an interesting last 8 pages, so in summary Castiel's a racist, Fetlocks is over 50, Zola doesn't care who likes Chelsea, aguero93:20 think's Zola's a **** for constant digs at City and Castiel think's Bluemoon is as bad as a Manchester United forum. Glad we got that sorted.

I didn't say that about Bluemoon! I know you got us mixed up.

I just took issue with the "racist fans" thing over something that was plaguing all football in the 70's.

And what has been clarified is that on occasion Chelsea were able to get a decent following but in general, and on average, were very poor away from home and indeed at home - in comparison to many other clubs, and the level they were playing at.

It is entirely true that Chelsea without money would be level with the Fulhams and Crystal Palaces. Nothing more, nothing less. Money has defined the club.

Money defined us eh? Very interesting point of view.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

I'll go along with the fans position as their were a number of NF followers back in the day but we are talking 20+ years ago. As for Terry he was cleared in a court of law of saying any racist remarks. Due to the media stirring things up nicely along with the society of black lawyers and the likes of Rio Ferdinand piping up the FA felt they had to act, not because they could prove anything because nobody heard and even lip reading experts were split but because they think "probably" he did say something.

Now whether he did or didn't say something I don't know but to label someone racist off the back of "probably" is wrong.

split opinion really, you can choose to believe anton Ferdinand or john terry.

Thing is Anton didn't hear anything, he was wound up by the media and his lovely brother.

Oh just give it a rest, you racist apologist.
Terry was found guilty by the FA, fined £220,000 and banned for four games for racist remarks.
Just which part of that do you have trouble understanding?

 

[zola]

Some clueless muppets on here.

Here are some facts: Season we were promoted at Bradford, Chelsea beat us 3-2 at our place and they had the whole Platt Lane and Kippax away section full. They also brought probably around 8k one Friday night for a league game - think Kerry Dixon scored for them - it was also arguably the best 'mob' anyone had ever brought to MR. If any City fan wants to dispute the facts about those two away followings then they need to give their heads a wobble.

As for the comment about Chelsea regularly taking 3 - 5k away that is utter bollocks. As a teenager (early 80's) I went with a mate to a few Chelsea away games in the North when City weren't playing and if they pulled a 1,000 - 1,500 in they were lucky

That would've amounted to close to 10,000. While some of their home crowds are open to criticism, you can't knock Chelsea's numbers in general for away games in the 80's. They pretty much always showed at Maine Road in good numbers - the only low turnout of theirs at ours that I can remember was a league game in February 1991 when much of the country was under a blanket of snow and ours was one of the few games that survived the weather. They even brought a good 3000-4000 for a low key league cup game at MR in October 1993 when we won 1-0 with a goal from Michel Vonk and the crowd was about 16k. A few weeks later we played them at the Bridge on a Monday night in the Premier League and I reckon there were no more than 400 or 500 City fans there - it was probably the lowest City away following I've ever been part of. That said, the crowd that night was only just over 10,000 so it was a poor turnout from both sides.

Cheers completely agree with our home gates being poor for a period but merely stated our away following was normally massive, which some chose not to believe and for some reason took is as an attack on City which it wasn't.<br /><br />-- Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:13 pm --<br /><br />

split opinion really, you can choose to believe anton Ferdinand or john terry.

Thing is Anton didn't hear anything, he was wound up by the media and his lovely brother.

Oh just give it a rest, you racist apologist.
Terry was found guilty by the FA, fined £220,000 and banned for four games for racist remarks.
Just which part of that do you have trouble understanding?

Talking to most on here seems they're ok but you really are an idiot !

Learn to read and digest things properly before spouting bollocks.

 

[aguero93:20]

Well that was an interesting last 8 pages, so in summary Castiel's a racist, Fetlocks is over 50, Zola doesn't care who likes Chelsea, aguero93:20 think's Zola's a **** for constant digs at City and Castiel think's Bluemoon is as bad as a Manchester United forum. Glad we got that sorted.

I didn't say that about Bluemoon! I know you got us mixed up.

I just took issue with the "racist fans" thing over something that was plaguing all football in the 70's.

And what has been clarified is that on occasion Chelsea were able to get a decent following but in general, and on average, were very poor away from home and indeed at home - in comparison to many other clubs, and the level they were playing at.

It is entirely true that Chelsea without money would be level with the Fulhams and Crystal Palaces. Nothing more, nothing less. Money has defined the club.

Money defined us eh? Very interesting point of view.

Money defines all clubs Castiel, you either have it and you're successful, or you don't and you're not.
Are we clear now I didn't call you a racist? :)

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Some clueless muppets on here.

Here are some facts: Season we were promoted at Bradford, Chelsea beat us 3-2 at our place and they had the whole Platt Lane and Kippax away section full. They also brought probably around 8k one Friday night for a league game - think Kerry Dixon scored for them - it was also arguably the best 'mob' anyone had ever brought to MR. If any City fan wants to dispute the facts about those two away followings then they need to give their heads a wobble.

As for the comment about Chelsea regularly taking 3 - 5k away that is utter bollocks. As a teenager (early 80's) I went with a mate to a few Chelsea away games in the North when City weren't playing and if they pulled a 1,000 - 1,500 in they were lucky

That would've amounted to close to 10,000. While some of their home crowds are open to criticism, you can't knock Chelsea's numbers in general for away games in the 80's. They pretty much always showed at Maine Road in good numbers - the only low turnout of theirs at ours that I can remember was a league game in February 1991 when much of the country was under a blanket of snow and ours was one of the few games that survived the weather. They even brought a good 3000-4000 for a low key league cup game at MR in October 1993 when we won 1-0 with a goal from Michel Vonk and the crowd was about 16k. A few weeks later we played them at the Bridge on a Monday night in the Premier League and I reckon there were no more than 400 or 500 City fans there - it was probably the lowest City away following I've ever been part of. That said, the crowd that night was only just over 10,000 so it was a poor turnout from both sides.

Cheers completely agree with our home gates being poor for a period but merely stated our away following was normally massive, which some chose not to believe and for some reason took is as an attack on City which it wasn't.

-- Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:13 pm --

Thing is Anton didn't hear anything, he was wound up by the media and his lovely brother.

Oh just give it a rest, you racist apologist.
Terry was found guilty by the FA, fined £220,000 and banned for four games for racist remarks.
Just which part of that do you have trouble understanding?

Talking to most on here seems they're ok but you really are an idiot !

Learn to read and digest things properly before spouting bollocks.

Alright, I won't call you a brainless, ignorant cockney **** just yet - I'll give you a chance to redeem yourself first.
Now instead of generally shit-stirring, lying through your worthless southern teeth and setting City fan against City fan, just which part of my post was incorrect?