Castiel said:Not sure we need a Lampard clone even if we were lucky enough to find one, but we do need some quality in central midfield (since Van Ginkel tore his ACL). Lampard was so successful for us in our old 433, a young Lampard wouldn't be so effective in the system we play today because he doesn't have licence to burst late into the box or linger so far forward. With Khedira making public comments about being unhappy, saying he's a "Mourinho disciple" there is a lot of talk of us moving for him in the January window. I'd personally be delighted if we signed him.supercrystal7 said:Mata's future is not looking good. The lack of confidence the manager is showing him seems to have effected him. Oscar has been brilliant so far and still so young. Still need a Lampard replacement. The game next week will be a big test.
No I agree with this. I don't think you need a Lampard clone at all. Lampard's best position as you said was 4-3-3. You need something different. I only meant you needed someone to take Lampard's place in the team. Khedira is a possible and will want minutes before the world cup.Castiel said:Not sure we need a Lampard clone even if we were lucky enough to find one, but we do need some quality in central midfield (since Van Ginkel tore his ACL). Lampard was so successful for us in our old 433, a young Lampard wouldn't be so effective in the system we play today because he doesn't have licence to burst late into the box or linger so far forward. With Khedira making public comments about being unhappy, saying he's a "Mourinho disciple" there is a lot of talk of us moving for him in the January window. I'd personally be delighted if we signed him.supercrystal7 said:Mata's future is not looking good. The lack of confidence the manager is showing him seems to have effected him. Oscar has been brilliant so far and still so young. Still need a Lampard replacement. The game next week will be a big test.
supercrystal7 said:No I agree with this. I don't think you need a Lampard clone at all. Lampard's best position as you said was 4-3-3. You need something different. I only meant you needed someone to take Lampard's place in the team. Khedira is a possible and will want minutes before the world cup.Castiel said:Not sure we need a Lampard clone even if we were lucky enough to find one, but we do need some quality in central midfield (since Van Ginkel tore his ACL). Lampard was so successful for us in our old 433, a young Lampard wouldn't be so effective in the system we play today because he doesn't have licence to burst late into the box or linger so far forward. With Khedira making public comments about being unhappy, saying he's a "Mourinho disciple" there is a lot of talk of us moving for him in the January window. I'd personally be delighted if we signed him.supercrystal7 said:Mata's future is not looking good. The lack of confidence the manager is showing him seems to have effected him. Oscar has been brilliant so far and still so young. Still need a Lampard replacement. The game next week will be a big test.
As I said in the summer when I was sure they wanted rid of Ozil, Madrid don't buy or sell players based on their performance. They go by names. Their German experimentation period with Ozil and Khedira is over. So they probably want a new route. You can be brilliant at Madrid and be sold for no real reason other than you are not the flavour of the month anymore.gooner2 said:supercrystal7 said:No I agree with this. I don't think you need a Lampard clone at all. Lampard's best position as you said was 4-3-3. You need something different. I only meant you needed someone to take Lampard's place in the team. Khedira is a possible and will want minutes before the world cup.Castiel said:Not sure we need a Lampard clone even if we were lucky enough to find one, but we do need some quality in central midfield (since Van Ginkel tore his ACL). Lampard was so successful for us in our old 433, a young Lampard wouldn't be so effective in the system we play today because he doesn't have licence to burst late into the box or linger so far forward. With Khedira making public comments about being unhappy, saying he's a "Mourinho disciple" there is a lot of talk of us moving for him in the January window. I'd personally be delighted if we signed him.
Be amazed if real sold him. I think they already looking light without ozil in midfield now. I think though chelsea need more a striker then a central midfielder.
supercrystal7 said:As I said in the summer when I was sure they wanted rid of Ozil, Madrid don't buy or sell players based on their performance. They go by names. Their German experimentation period with Ozil and Khedira is over. So they probably want a new route. You can be brilliant at Madrid and be sold for no real reason other than you are not the flavour of the month anymore.gooner2 said:supercrystal7 said:No I agree with this. I don't think you need a Lampard clone at all. Lampard's best position as you said was 4-3-3. You need something different. I only meant you needed someone to take Lampard's place in the team. Khedira is a possible and will want minutes before the world cup.
Be amazed if real sold him. I think they already looking light without ozil in midfield now. I think though chelsea need more a striker then a central midfielder.
Castiel said:They did the same when they sold Robben and Sneijder after they got bored with the Dutch experiment. Robben was being compared to Messi in La Liga and look how Sneijder did at Inter. They're not a normal club.
At the same time they have a great youth system (though they sell them) and are the No 1 club in the world for most players. Most players dream of playing for Madrid and it will continue. The backstage politics at the club do not help.gooner2 said:Castiel said:They did the same when they sold Robben and Sneijder after they got bored with the Dutch experiment. Robben was being compared to Messi in La Liga and look how Sneijder did at Inter. They're not a normal club.
They are run very badly which is why it been ten year since they won champions league. They lost big semi final or quater final to top teams as they have no balance in their team.
They sell top players to good teams if they have one bad season for them. Perez is a joke of a owner. He same guy who sacked a manager who won them the champions league and la liga .
supercrystal7 said:At the same time they have a great youth system (though they sell them) and are the No 1 club in the world for most players. Most players dream of playing for Madrid and it will continue. The backstage politics at the club do not help.gooner2 said:Castiel said:They did the same when they sold Robben and Sneijder after they got bored with the Dutch experiment. Robben was being compared to Messi in La Liga and look how Sneijder did at Inter. They're not a normal club.
They are run very badly which is why it been ten year since they won champions league. They lost big semi final or quater final to top teams as they have no balance in their team.
They sell top players to good teams if they have one bad season for them. Perez is a joke of a owner. He same guy who sacked a manager who won them the champions league and la liga .
Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho has been charged with improper conduct in relation to his behaviour during his side's game against Cardiff City on Saturday 19 October 2013.
'Mourinho has until 24 October at 6pm to respond to the charge.'