Chelsea Thread 2014/15

This is why I am glad he never has and never will manage City. It's always about him and never the club, a self centred twat.

It's a shame that Chelsea fans are so deluded and see him as their God. He has no care for match going fans one bit, couldn't care less. He is only concerned with himself and being in the spot light.
 
This is why I am glad he never has and never will manage City. It's always about him and never the club, a self centred twat.

It's a shame that Chelsea fans are so deluded and see him as their God. He has no care for match going fans one bit, couldn't care less. He is only concerned with himself and being in the spot light.
 
Deluded bastards are appealing Matic's Red, this is the second frivolous appeal against a red for violent conduct in the space of a month, he has to be hit with the extra game.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Deluded bastards are appealing Matic's Red, this is the second frivolous appeal against a red for violent conduct in the space of a month, he has to be hit with the extra game.
This is the clearest frivolous appeal you'll ever see, but they won't hit him with an additional game ban as they don't want the media backlash. They've fucked up in not hammering Ashley Barnes, and people generally are sympathetic towards Matic's response, so they won't want to get involved in that if they can help it.

The challenge on Matic was a shocker, and I don't blame him for the way he reacted (he could have ended up with a broken leg), however understanding the reaction, and being sympathetic towards it, doesn't change the rules. He ran 10 yards and flattened an opponent by shoving him forcefully to the floor. It's as nailed on a red card as you're likely to see. If the FA were to overturn that then it allows players to, at will, throw their opponents around, and sets a precedent that other players will use for appeals in the future. I'm sure we've all seen the bodyslam/suplex in the Worcester v Stockport game this weekend, that was a reaction to a horrible leg breaker challenge, was that reaction ok? No. Matic's ban should stand, he commited the offence, albeit with mitigating circumstances.
 
Spot on Matty.

The media have managed to involve Barnes in Matic's red card. The Barnes foul (if it was one as he'd made a decent ball contact then collided as Matic came in. Think about it if Matic was a tenth of a second later he'd have gone through Barnes, both were committed to their actions) is irrelevant to the red card. Matic's offence is raising his arms which is a red card.

I also doubt that the ban would be increased as much as Maureen moans Chelsea get a better break than most teams.
 
Matty said:
They've fucked up in not hammering Ashley Barnes, and people generally are sympathetic towards Matic's response, so they won't want to get involved in that if they can help it.

The challenge on Matic was a shocker, and I don't blame him for the way he reacted (he could have ended up with a broken leg),


What? What what???

Barnes is passing the ball, his leg is obviously going to follow through. It's only the angle Matic came through at that has made it into this 'horror tackle'. The initial contact, IMO, is a consequence of the game, nothing more.
 
Matty said:
aguero93:20 said:
Deluded bastards are appealing Matic's Red, this is the second frivolous appeal against a red for violent conduct in the space of a month, he has to be hit with the extra game.
This is the clearest frivolous appeal you'll ever see, but they won't hit him with an additional game ban as they don't want the media backlash. They've fucked up in not hammering Ashley Barnes, and people generally are sympathetic towards Matic's response, so they won't want to get involved in that if they can help it.

The challenge on Matic was a shocker, and I don't blame him for the way he reacted (he could have ended up with a broken leg), however understanding the reaction, and being sympathetic towards it, doesn't change the rules. He ran 10 yards and flattened an opponent by shoving him forcefully to the floor. It's as nailed on a red card as you're likely to see. If the FA were to overturn that then it allows players to, at will, throw their opponents around, and sets a precedent that other players will use for appeals in the future. I'm sure we've all seen the bodyslam/suplex in the Worcester v Stockport game this weekend, that was a reaction to a horrible leg breaker challenge, was that reaction ok? No. Matic's ban should stand, he commited the offence, albeit with mitigating circumstances.

It's not about punishing Matic though, it's about punishing Chelsea for repeatedly making frivolous appeals, on top of the Costa stamps, that they had the arrogance to appeal a 3 game ban for when he was lucky not to be hit with much worse originally, as he could have been if he'd be punished for the stamp on Srktel, they've also been extremely lucky that Ivanovic wasn't banned for throttling and attempting to headbutt an opponent and that Cahill wasn't banned for repeatedly kicking an opponent on the ground, they're taking the piss. As for mitigation, there shoud be no such thing, Aguero was on the end of a far worse tackle on Saturday from Coloccini, did he react? Did he fuck. If he had decked Coloccini, would there be any chance of him escaping a ban? Not a chance and we'd be hit with an extra game if we appealed.
 
Matty said:
aguero93:20 said:
Deluded bastards are appealing Matic's Red, this is the second frivolous appeal against a red for violent conduct in the space of a month, he has to be hit with the extra game.
This is the clearest frivolous appeal you'll ever see, but they won't hit him with an additional game ban as they don't want the media backlash. They've fucked up in not hammering Ashley Barnes, and people generally are sympathetic towards Matic's response, so they won't want to get involved in that if they can help it.

The challenge on Matic was a shocker, and I don't blame him for the way he reacted (he could have ended up with a broken leg), however understanding the reaction, and being sympathetic towards it, doesn't change the rules. He ran 10 yards and flattened an opponent by shoving him forcefully to the floor. It's as nailed on a red card as you're likely to see. If the FA were to overturn that then it allows players to, at will, throw their opponents around, and sets a precedent that other players will use for appeals in the future. I'm sure we've all seen the bodyslam/suplex in the Worcester v Stockport game this weekend, that was a reaction to a horrible leg breaker challenge, was that reaction ok? No. Matic's ban should stand, he commited the offence, albeit with mitigating circumstances.

I don't think the Burnley player even made a challenge, Matic came into his path after he had committed to the ball, making the contact an unfortunate accident (I'm not on my own with this summary either)

What chance the FA will listen to the head ref and overturn the red............

Now that would be a joke
 
Matty said:
aguero93:20 said:
Deluded bastards are appealing Matic's Red, this is the second frivolous appeal against a red for violent conduct in the space of a month, he has to be hit with the extra game.
This is the clearest frivolous appeal you'll ever see, but they won't hit him with an additional game ban as they don't want the media backlash. They've fucked up in not hammering Ashley Barnes, and people generally are sympathetic towards Matic's response, so they won't want to get involved in that if they can help it.

The challenge on Matic was a shocker, and I don't blame him for the way he reacted (he could have ended up with a broken leg), however understanding the reaction, and being sympathetic towards it, doesn't change the rules. He ran 10 yards and flattened an opponent by shoving him forcefully to the floor. It's as nailed on a red card as you're likely to see. If the FA were to overturn that then it allows players to, at will, throw their opponents around, and sets a precedent that other players will use for appeals in the future. I'm sure we've all seen the bodyslam/suplex in the Worcester v Stockport game this weekend, that was a reaction to a horrible leg breaker challenge, was that reaction ok? No. Matic's ban should stand, he commited the offence, albeit with mitigating circumstances.

Are they allowed to look at those circumstances? It is surely just judged on what Matic did. Not why he did it. In which case he gets an extra game ban as the appeal is pointless. With the Costa ban, they banned him over one incident and didn't take action on another. For me one informed the other - you could see he was trying to rough up the Liverpool defenders, though each incident was slightly dubious because he didn't put too much force through the stamp and didn't look at the player... he knew what he was doing but the way they assessed things (though league cup and not through the same procedure) would suggest to me they have to ignore why he did what he did or anything else that occurred and ban him plus the extra game for wasting time.
 
It was a pass.

Also, I reckon Mourinho hopes the FA will give Matic an extra game on top of the 3 just so he can listen to his own voice some more.
 

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