Chelsea Thread 2014/15

[whyalwaysyou]

The Chelsea team looks stronger for me and is quite fearsome. Would be surprised if they don't win the league next season. Last season City were the standout team and there was not a huge gap between the other five. The transfer deadline has not yet ended, but already Chelsea now have the strongest squad. Arsenal have a the best attack, but surprisingly they still have not addressed their defensive issues. If they were to buy a defensive midfielder of real quality like Bender, Bender or Martinez then they would be right up there.

Since when?

Aguero - Dzeko - Negredo - Jovetic

RVP - Rooney - Welbeck - Hernandez

Torres - Costa - Lukaku - Schurrle

Giroud - Sanchez - Podolski - Sanogo

I'd say they have an "alright" attack, certainly not the best.

The scum have 2nd best attack on paper, not Arsenal

 

[dan.j.mcfc]

It looks very close to me. I think Chelsea look better overall because of the blend they have of pace, creativity, and defensive solidity. The City formation looks like it has a lot of players who prefer to play through the middle, and therefore lacks a bit of pace in the wide areas. Of course it's still a top quality 11, and I think the addition of Fernando will help you a lot against the best teams, but I would say at this moment in time the Chelsea team has a small advantage in my opinion.

The other thing to consider is that your transfer business is probably completed whereas they still have money from the sales of Luiz and Mata to fund more transfers if they want to.

Looking at their strongest 11 selected, I'd take 3 players; Hazard, Fabregas and Courtois. For the life of me, I can't see how they have the advantage. They are master "grinders" under Mourinho and play hideous football, maybe that is clouding my judgement a little? Watching City under Pellegrini last season, I cant see a single player other than the three I've mentioned who would improve us in any way over the players we've got. (In a strongest line-up)

Have you seen much of Fernando is he better than Matic? Filipe Luis is better than any of your left backs. The Chelsea team is younger and approaching their primes. They are also better balanced. All their players are playing in their best position. They might dip in for Pogba, but I can see Mourinho playing 4-3-3. I wouldn't better on Terry being a guaranteed starter either. Ivanovic and Zouma will push him.


Courtois
Azpilicueta--Terry---Cahill---Felipe Luis

Oscar------Fabregas------Matic

Willian/Schurrle-----Costa-----Hazard

Azpilicuteta

I think there's very little in it between Fernando and Matic, although I personally feel Fernando is much more mobile than Matic. If we're talking directly about who's better than who, Aguero is better than any Chelsea striker, Toure is better than any Chelsea midfielder, Kompany is better than any Chelsea defender...........I'm not saying they aren't a good side, there's just nothing I see, that makes me think they have any advantage or clear favourite status.

 

[whyalwaysyou]

Looking at their strongest 11 selected, I'd take 3 players; Hazard, Fabregas and Courtois. For the life of me, I can't see how they have the advantage. They are master "grinders" under Mourinho and play hideous football, maybe that is clouding my judgement a little? Watching City under Pellegrini last season, I cant see a single player other than the three I've mentioned who would improve us in any way over the players we've got. (In a strongest line-up)

Have you seen much of Fernando is he better than Matic? Filipe Luis is better than any of your left backs. The Chelsea team is younger and approaching their primes. They are also better balanced. All their players are playing in their best position. They might dip in for Pogba, but I can see Mourinho playing 4-3-3. I wouldn't better on Terry being a guaranteed starter either. Ivanovic and Zouma will push him.


Courtois
Azpilicueta--Terry---Cahill---Felipe Luis

Oscar------Fabregas------Matic

Willian/Schurrle-----Costa-----Hazard

Azpilicuteta

I think there's very little in it between Fernando and Matic, although I personally feel Fernando is much more mobile than Matic. If we're talking directly about who's better than who, Aguero is better than any Chelsea striker, Toure is better than any Chelsea midfielder, Kompany is better than any Chelsea defender...........I'm not saying they aren't a good side, there's just nothing I see, that makes me think they have any advantage or clear favourite status.

doesnt work like that

 

[dan.j.mcfc]

Have you seen much of Fernando is he better than Matic? Filipe Luis is better than any of your left backs. The Chelsea team is younger and approaching their primes. They are also better balanced. All their players are playing in their best position. They might dip in for Pogba, but I can see Mourinho playing 4-3-3. I wouldn't better on Terry being a guaranteed starter either. Ivanovic and Zouma will push him.


Courtois
Azpilicueta--Terry---Cahill---Felipe Luis

Oscar------Fabregas------Matic

Willian/Schurrle-----Costa-----Hazard

Azpilicuteta

I think there's very little in it between Fernando and Matic, although I personally feel Fernando is much more mobile than Matic. If we're talking directly about who's better than who, Aguero is better than any Chelsea striker, Toure is better than any Chelsea midfielder, Kompany is better than any Chelsea defender...........I'm not saying they aren't a good side, there's just nothing I see, that makes me think they have any advantage or clear favourite status.

doesnt work like that

Obviously - I was responding to a point made about Felipe Luis being "better than any of our Left Backs" I know it's not a computer game lol

 

[supercrystal7]

The Chelsea team looks stronger for me and is quite fearsome. Would be surprised if they don't win the league next season. Last season City were the standout team and there was not a huge gap between the other five. The transfer deadline has not yet ended, but already Chelsea now have the strongest squad. Arsenal have a the best attack, but surprisingly they still have not addressed their defensive issues. If they were to buy a defensive midfielder of real quality like Bender, Bender or Martinez then they would be right up there.

Since when?

Aguero - Dzeko - Negredo - Jovetic

RVP - Rooney - Welbeck - Hernandez

Torres - Costa - Lukaku - Schurrle

Giroud - Sanchez - Podolski - Sanogo

I'd say they have an "alright" attack, certainly not the best.

The scum have 2nd best attack on paper, not Arsenal

No way. Ozil was poor last season, but I expect him to step up a lot. Then they have Sanchez, Walcott and Ramsey. Would take those four over United any day of the week. Rooney is no longer world class and that leaves them with Mata (who should be inferior to Ozil) and RVP.


In reply to Dan as whywalwaysyou said it just does not work like that. City do have the best centre back, the best midfielder and the best striker in the league though.

 

[dan.j.mcfc]

Since when?

Aguero - Dzeko - Negredo - Jovetic

RVP - Rooney - Welbeck - Hernandez

Torres - Costa - Lukaku - Schurrle

Giroud - Sanchez - Podolski - Sanogo

I'd say they have an "alright" attack, certainly not the best.

The scum have 2nd best attack on paper, not Arsenal

No way. Ozil was poor last season, but I expect him to step up a lot. Then they have Sanchez, Walcott and Ramsey. Would take those four over United any day of the week. Rooney is no longer world class and that leaves them with Mata (who should be inferior to Ozil) and RVP.


In reply to Dan as whywalwaysyou said it just does not work like that. City do have the best centre back, the best midfielder and the best striker in the league though.

I was the one who responded to both pal, I thought you was referring to only strikers, didn't know you were including the likes of, Silva, Nasri, Hazard, Mata, Ozil, Cazorla etc...that's a whole different situation.

 

[supercrystal7]

The scum have 2nd best attack on paper, not Arsenal

No way. Ozil was poor last season, but I expect him to step up a lot. Then they have Sanchez, Walcott and Ramsey. Would take those four over United any day of the week. Rooney is no longer world class and that leaves them with Mata (who should be inferior to Ozil) and RVP.


In reply to Dan as whywalwaysyou said it just does not work like that. City do have the best centre back, the best midfielder and the best striker in the league though.

I was the one who responded to both pal, I thought you was referring to only strikers, didn't know you were including the likes of, Silva, Nasri, Hazard, Mata, Ozil, Cazorla etc...that's a whole different situation.

Yeh I know, I just worded it poorly. Meant to write in response to the Arsenal attack. Yes I was referring to the attack as a whole, though still slight simplistic, because Chelsea suffered a lot last season from full backs, that could not attack (Cesar on the left). However, if I needed to break down a solid defensive unite I think Arsenal have a great chance. The problem for them is that they still have not addressed the reason they were thrashed away from home so easily,

 

[Marvin]

No way. Ozil was poor last season, but I expect him to step up a lot. Then they have Sanchez, Walcott and Ramsey. Would take those four over United any day of the week. Rooney is no longer world class and that leaves them with Mata (who should be inferior to Ozil) and RVP.


In reply to Dan as whywalwaysyou said it just does not work like that. City do have the best centre back, the best midfielder and the best striker in the league though.

I was the one who responded to both pal, I thought you was referring to only strikers, didn't know you were including the likes of, Silva, Nasri, Hazard, Mata, Ozil, Cazorla etc...that's a whole different situation.

Yeh I know, I just worded it poorly. Meant to write in response to the Arsenal attack. Yes I was referring to the attack as a whole, though still slight simplistic, because Chelsea suffered a lot last season from full backs, that could not attack (Cesar on the left). However, if I needed to break down a solid defensive unite I think Arsenal have a great chance. The problem for them is that they still have not addressed the reason they were thrashed away from home so easily,

I agree that Arsenal have a weakness in that area. It's long been the case, but Wenger doesn't seem to value a defensive midfielder. He could have addressed that position years ago and hasn't

You could put question marks against all of the leading teams. None looks totally convincing. On the subject of Chelsea, how will Zouma do? And how will Costa do. There's no guarantee they will work.

 

[Instant_Offense]

Although I rate Costa less than most, I still think Chelsea has the deepest and best squad at this point. Particularly in attacking mids. Nasri is anonymous far too often for me and Navas is a bit of a one-trick-pony. The transfer cap, though allowing us to improve depth at key positions, has prevented us from significantly strengthening our starting 11(based solely on 14/15 Demi/Mangala is basically a wash) while the other contenders are improving drastically, especially is Arse/Khedira-Chelsea/Pogba happen.

 

[jared]

So courtois, luis, costa and thiago, that is four Atletico Madrid players all joining chelsea in one season. Pity that team could not build on last seasons title win. F u mourinho!

Anyway, no doubt it's a strong squad. They upgraded from last season and many of their young players are more experienced now. Then again their WC players are probably fatigued and psychologically damaged after a long season. It would affect them more than other teams.


Should be a good fight between us for the title. Can't wait.