Chelsea Thread - 2022/23 | Pochettino confirmed as new manager

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Vialli98 said:
You think the offer of 2.2b was a joke offer? How much do think Chelsea is actually worth?
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Well, apparently 4.5 billion.

But if the Rags are indeed to be sold for 7 billion in the coming months or year, then by comparison I’d put Chelsea in the state it was when Boehly bought it at 8 billion. Of course, that’s in large part because Utd are being overvalued, rather than Chelsea being undervalued, but still.

(The value of Chelsea FC will absolutely nosedive if this form carries on for three or more seasons though, and if the unlikely but still within the realms possibility they don’t survive the drop, it would be catastrophic for the value of the club, and for the club in general. Seven games to avoid that possibility…)
 
Vialli98 said:
You're most likely right, and Chelsea fans aren't exactly known for their patience and clear-mindedness, so it would be completely on brand for some of us to already dislike him before he's managed to get properly settled in.

When you take a step back from the everything and view the whole picture with everything that has happened from this time last year to now, it's a lot - Ukraine war, forced and hostile ownership change, lost key players to free agency, then the transfer window opened immediately after the takeover was complete and then first clashes with high ranking personnel hold over from the previous ownership and then coach fired whilst trying to rebuild a proper football structure from ground up. All of this in the span of about 4-5 months.

The mistake they made was trying to do too much too quickly. There was no need to spend 300m in the summer immediately after the takeover other than wanting to be seen making a statement to the fans. A more measured approach would have been much better but oh well, we're here now and hopefully with the structure now in place, if they get the right manager in (Luis Enrique), hopefully we'll start trending upwards.
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Why would a top manager go there? Chaotic dressing room, no CL, owner flailing around. I’d steer clear for a year or two.
 
paska said:
Well, apparently 4.5 billion.

But if the Rags are indeed to be sold for 7 billion in the coming months or year, then by comparison I’d put Chelsea in the state it was when Boehly bought it at 8 billion. Of course, that’s in large part because Utd are being overvalued, rather than Chelsea being undervalued, but still.

(The value of Chelsea FC will absolutely nosedive if this form carries on for three or more seasons though, and if the unlikely but still within the realms possibility they don’t survive the drop, it would be catastrophic for the value of the club, and for the club in general. Seven games to avoid that possibility…)
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Based on current comparable valuations, I put our value at somewhere between 1.1 and 1.6 trillion.
 
KS55 said:
Why would a top manager go there? Chaotic dressing room, no CL, owner flailing around. I’d steer clear for a year or two.
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Because we're Chelsea. The only manager who turned us down due to the way the club was run was Pep. Most managers would love to a) have a club like Chelsea on their CV and b) being at Chelsea comes with being able spend in the market and you get to manage very talented players and c) if you get sacked it's rarely a bad reflection on your reputation (unless you have a truly disastrous time) because people will always look at it like 'typical Chelsea, never give managers time'.
 
KS55 said:
Why would a top manager go there? Chaotic dressing room, no CL, owner flailing around. I’d steer clear for a year or two.
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Chelsea are one of the most popular clubs on the planet. Only Juve, PSG, Utd, Barca and Real have bigger fan bases.
Mancini’s Pastilles said:
I can see "the special one" going back for a 3rd spell
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I don't think so. I hope not.
 
paska said:
Well, apparently 4.5 billion.

But if the Rags are indeed to be sold for 7 billion in the coming months or year, then by comparison I’d put Chelsea in the state it was when Boehly bought it at 8 billion. Of course, that’s in large part because Utd are being overvalued, rather than Chelsea being undervalued, but still.

(The value of Chelsea FC will absolutely nosedive if this form carries on for three or more seasons though, and if the unlikely but still within the realms possibility they don’t survive the drop, it would be catastrophic for the value of the club, and for the club in general. Seven games to avoid that possibility…)
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You think Chelsea are worth more than United?

The 4.5b was actually closer to 2.5b and a further promise of 1.75b investment over the coming years.
 
Vialli98 said:
You're most likely right, and Chelsea fans aren't exactly known for their patience and clear-mindedness, so it would be completely on brand for some of us to already dislike him before he's managed to get properly settled in.

When you take a step back from the everything and view the whole picture with everything that has happened from this time last year to now, it's a lot - Ukraine war, forced and hostile ownership change, lost key players to free agency, then the transfer window opened immediately after the takeover was complete and then first clashes with high ranking personnel hold over from the previous ownership and then coach fired whilst trying to rebuild a proper football structure from ground up. All of this in the span of about 4-5 months.

The mistake they made was trying to do too much too quickly. There was no need to spend 300m in the summer immediately after the takeover other than wanting to be seen making a statement to the fans. A more measured approach would have been much better but oh well, we're here now and hopefully with the structure now in place, if they get the right manager in (Luis Enrique), hopefully we'll start trending upwards.
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Roman(managerial sackings aside), was a great owner, both for Chelsea and the league.
 
ASHCFC said:
Chelsea are one of the most popular clubs on the planet. Only Juve, PSG, Utd, Barca and Real have bigger fan bases.
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This kind of shite always amuses me. Do you have a bigger fan base than Boca Juniors? River Plate? Al Ahly? Bayern Munich? Celtic? Rangers? AC Milan? Inter Milan? Benfica? Liverpool? Ajax?
 
Vialli98 said:
You think Chelsea are worth more than United?

The 4.5b was actually closer to 2.5b and a further promise of 1.75b investment over the coming years.
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At the time Boehly bought in, yes I did. They were European champions, weren’t suffering from 10+ years of mismanagement like Utd, the stadium whilst it will be usurped in time, is still in much better nick than the swamp, and on the face of it all of CFC’s assets were more valuable at that point.

I would still say right now CFC would represent a better investment, but it depends on how quickly they recover from what has happened since Boehly arrived - and to repeat, if Chelsea go down they will be worth vastly reduced figures.
 
VOOMER said:
Roman(managerial sackings aside), was a great owner, both for Chelsea and the league.
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I think his lack of foresight and planning started the decline in 2017. Yes we popped up to a win CL in 2021 but that was more of a situation of lightening striking for us than anything we had planned and worked towards. I honestly think his methods of hiring and firing managers was working fine until Pep rocked up at City (and to a lesser extent Klopp at Liverpool) and proved to so incredibly consistent that no matter who we hired would always fall short of what Pep was doing at City.

We pretty much became a cup team in the last 5 years of his ownership and I think, unless he miraculously changed his ways, we would have continued to decline and be left behind by City (and then Newcastle who also look like they're well run).

The takeover happening when it did really solidified his legacy at Chelsea.
 
paska said:
At the time Boehly bought in, yes I did. They were European champions, weren’t suffering from 10+ years of mismanagement like Utd, the stadium whilst it will be usurped in time, is still in much better nick than the swamp, and on the face of it all of CFC’s assets were more valuable at that point.

I would still say right now CFC would represent a better investment, but it depends on how quickly they recover from what has happened since Boehly arrived - and to repeat, if Chelsea go down they will be worth vastly reduced figures.
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Fair enough. I don't know if I agree with that.
 
Vialli98 said:
Fair enough. I don't know if I agree with that.
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Having said that, I don’t buy VOOMER’s argument that Boehly would have known Johnson was going to suspend Russian assets before Johnson knew himself, much less so before the war had even began.
 
As I was watching the game last night, nice glass of Jack in hand, as I reserve that only for UCL nights, I saw some bruised egos trying for the first time in a while at Chelsea. It was interesting, and then the most expected collapse since the realisation of saggy tits on an old woman, came when Rodrygo said, I have had enough and woke up from what was a training session in London. Nice try, probably a bit late.

Chelsea are reaping what they sowed allowing a frankly ghastly idiotic man, with far too much money, to play FIFA Career mode and expect the game is set on easy, only to find the game is bugged on the hardest difficulty and the guy playing can't see and has only 1 hand. Reality is often cruel, as City fans we have learnt this over the last few years, in many moments. I still chuckled a bit, I must be honest.

The reason for my smile however was none other than Sterling and Cucurella. Much has been said about the two of them. I can probably still reserve a gargantuan "HaHa". Because life, and football is funny like that.
 
Cellarite said:
This kind of shite always amuses me. Do you have a bigger fan base than Boca Juniors? River Plate? Al Ahly? Bayern Munich? Celtic? Rangers? AC Milan? Inter Milan? Benfica? Liverpool? Ajax?
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According to stats on international fan bases, yes.

I think maybe you're confusing local fan bases with international ones. I do appreciate that numbers and therefore rankings can vary a little depending upon the metrics used, but the point remains solid - Chelsea are one of the most popular teams on the planet.

Chelsea: 106.5m
Liverpool: 101.6m
Bayern: 94.9m
Manchester City: 86.9m
 
ASHCFC said:
According to stats on international fan bases, yes.

I think maybe you're confusing local fan bases with international ones. I do appreciate that numbers and therefore rankings can vary a little depending upon the metrics used, but the point remains solid - Chelsea are one of the most popular teams on the planet.

Chelsea: 106.5m
Liverpool: 101.6m
Bayern: 94.9m
Manchester City: 86.9m
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I wonder how they count fans? It's a mystery.
 
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