Chelsea Thread - 2022/23 | Pochettino confirmed as new manager

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I don't get why people are so keen to make Potter out as an excellent manager simply at the wrong club at the wrong time.

He was fucking terrible. Borderline clueless. His reputation is and should well be in tatters. To walk into a side that under the previous manager won the champions league and was in multiple cup finals, had 600m+ of new players, and to drop them into the bottom half of the table is deserving of the sack. And ridicule. Their worst ever manager apparently.

Yes he exceeded expectations at Brighton, and yes he is a 'cool' young-ish mod-looking Englishman that some had a romantic notion could one day manage us. But Brighton have done just as well if not better since he left, because they have a good recruitment set-up and are capable of finding the right players. It now looks like he was at the right place at the right time there.

Ultimately he was found out, way out of his depth and not good enough for the top level. It was a stupid move, one he wasn't ready for, but he was nowhere near good enough to go for it.
I disagree.
He did very well at swansea as well as abroad before joining Brighton.
The 600m players were not his players and was very unbalanced - not his fault.
Brighton have continued to do well since he left but would the current Brighton manager have been able to do well if he wasn't picking up potter's team?
 
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There are huge ramifications for Chelsea, Utd and Liverpool not getting top 4. However Chelsea have atleast signed players they’d likely want were they in the CL next season. Who would join Utd or Liverpool when they aren’t? It’s fun to watch
 
I disagree.
He did very well at swansea as well as abroad before joining Brighton.
The 600m players were not his players and was very unbalanced - it his fault.
Brighton have continued to do well since he left but would the current Brighton manager have been able to do well if he wasn't picking up potter's team?
His doing well at Swansea (another club where expectations are easy to exceed) as an arguement he could maybe manage a top club, is a perfectly debatable hypothetical Before he goes to a top club.

Having gone to one, and failed spectacularly, it is pretty clear he wasn't good enough.
 
I don't get why people are so keen to make Potter out as an excellent manager simply at the wrong club at the wrong time.

He was fucking terrible. Borderline clueless.
Potterball:

(-) 28% win rate in 3 years @ Brighton
(-) Never finishing a season with a (+)ve goal difference.
(-) Never beating a PL opposition in any cup competition.
(-) At his age, statistically worse than Big Sam, Pulis & Uncle Woy by every metric.
(+) Talks about growing a nice beard and having a footballer's trimz to keep the UK Journo's smiling.
 
His doing well at Swansea (another club where expectations are easy to exceed) as an arguement he could maybe manage a top club, is a perfectly debatable hypothetical Before he goes to a top club.

Having gone to one, and failed spectacularly, it is pretty clear he wasn't good enough.
No it's not, that's a very simplistic view which isn't a slight as football fans tend to think that way.

The view that every good manager must have a good season otherwise they ain't a good manager is laughable tbh.
 
No it's not, that's a very simplistic view which isn't a slight as football fans tend to think that way.

The view that every good manager must have a good season otherwise they ain't a good manager is laughable tbh.

What's laughable is his record.

He is a 'good' manager, for clubs like Swansea, and where Brighton were when he was there, with low expectations. He is not good enough for top level clubs. He didn't live up to the hype.

He has time on his side and will find a good club for his level, doubt any top club would now dare go near him though.
 
Potterball:

(-) 28% win rate in 3 years @ Brighton
(-) Never finishing a season with a (+)ve goal difference.
(-) Never beating a PL opposition in any cup competition.
(-) At his age, statistically worse than Big Sam, Pulis & Uncle Woy by every metric.
(+) Talks about growing a nice beard and having a footballer's trimz to keep the UK Journo's smiling.
Stuart Pearce had 2 full seasons at city, he achieved more points in those 2 years than porters first 2 full seasons at Brighton, potter then exceeded his points tally by ten points in his third year. Each of his seasons at Brighton had a run of over ten games without a win.
 
I disagree.
He did very well at swansea as well as abroad before joining Brighton.
The 600m players were not his players and was very unbalanced - not his fault.
Brighton have continued to do well since he left but would the current Brighton manager have been able to do well if he wasn't picking up potter's team?
I still think Potter's a good manager. However, I do think it takes a different sort of charisma to lead a group of highly paid, maybe overpaid superstars with different expectations, than players lower down the table, and Potter hasn't shown he has that charisma.

Also yes, the 600mil worth of players might be not his choice at the end of the day, but they were still huge talents highly sought-after by European top clubs, they weren't Sunday league players. Working with what you've got is part of the job for a football manager, and there's alot of managers out there working with alot less than what Potter got. Even Pep had to use Kolarov, Delph, Sagna, Navas etc.

Boehly also did not instruct Potter to play James and Cucurella in CB, or keep playing the ineffectual Havertz while freezing out the only natural striker they have. Potter's own tactical tinkering every match week did not help his cause.

It's not 100% Potter's fault, but he also can't be completely absolved of blame.
 
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