Chelsea Thread - 2023/24

[Cellarite]

He did well at Spurs and hasn't done since, yet continues to get touted for top jobs. He's also made two poor choices in the team's he has chosen to manage. No one made him take either job. Aside from one spell at Spurs, which is quite a while ago now, I haven't seen anything from him to indicate that he's a top manager.

Ferguson, Pep and Ancelotti, to use your own examples all had more than enough credit in the bank to excuse those 'isolated mistakes', which didn't span years and multiple clubs.

And yet Paris St Germain and Chelsea did.

 

[Akira]

Is this the summer for surprise sackings? First De Zerbi, now Poch. I'm not a big fan of Poch but genuinely thought he'd be given another season, given how they ended the season.

Just a huge clown show over there. I get ambitious clubs changing coaches if you think they aren't good enough, but it's a joke the coaches they are linked with - the same set of coaches Brighton are linked with. With all due respect to Brighton and those mentioned names, Chelsea should be aiming for a bigger name than that, someone like Mourinho or Flick. You don't hand the reigns of a billion-pound squad to an unproven coach.

Unless they hit it lucky with the next unproven coach they get, expect Chelsea to continue lingering in mediocrity.

 

[Bellamy's Caddy]

And yet Paris St Germain and Chelsea did.

Both saw the error of their ways pretty quickly.

 

[Akira]

Chelsea would have sacked Pep after his first season

Pep would've resigned seeing how the club is ran.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I remember when a certain blue club did this and it wasn’t funny at all.

 

[Akira]

There’ll be no shortage of suitors for Pochettino’s signature. Mutual consent doesn’t quite mean he’s been sacked but they perhaps couldn’t agree a way to move forwards.

Telegraph's saying it's coaching structure and philosophy. Clearlake wants to build coaching around specialists like set-piece coaches, while Poch doesn't. Essentially, Poch wants full control over coaching, but Clearlake wants to decide the personnel in that department.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Telegraph's saying it's coaching structure and philosophy. Clearlake wants to build coaching around specialists like set-piece coaches, while Poch doesn't. Essentially, Poch wants full control over coaching, but Clearlake wants to decide the personnel in that department.

I would imagine that it should be not a simply binary all-me or all-you process. Pep has coaches around him who work on specialised things. But I'm dead sure he has a say in who's appointed.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

I suspect that clubs like Chelsea (and it may well happen with United) are moving towards a continental model, where basically the president of the club sees himself as the manager, and the “manager” is a kind of temporary glorified dogsbody. It's always been the problem at Barcelona and Real Madrid, it's also the problem at PSG. You might say well, they've done ok, but I think given that they really are in something close to farmers leagues, it would be pretty shocking if they didn't win their league year in year out. As they do. Pep more or said that this was the reason he moved on from Barca, where everything should have been set up to help him. It was also, a long way back, the reason why Brian Clough moved on from Derby (although he had a very abrasive style, it has to be said).
It cuts the authority from under the feet of the manager, and authority, in successful management, is a key quality.

 

[MCFC Wirral]

As long as these clubs keep winning things then it doesn’t really matter. Managers themselves aren’t particularly loyal now.

 

[Bantamgaz]

Madness do these clubs never learn ???

Not the best of seasons but was it ever gonna be having to sort that shambles out ????

The signs at the end was that they could on the right road to doing something.

Sadly that Chelsea FC now a basket case club