Chelsea v City Post Match Thread

[The Flash]

I still feel quite angry. For 90 minutes we played very well. Certain players stood out, like Aguero and Demichellis. Even Garcia played his role quite well. To be let down by Hart again when he has been at fault for so many goals already this season, is a real punch in the gut. He has completely fucked over his team mates today, who didn't deserve to lose. Clichy just can't cope either, everything Chelsea did came from his flank today, Zabaleta had Hazard in his back pocket.

I could forgive Villa, they won the lottery that day. But today, I just feel really fucking angry. There needs to be a watershed moment where certain players stand up and be counted. The league is here for the taking again yet we are not showing the mental fortitude to take it.

Post of the day.

Well said mate.

Is it bollocks the post of the day.

Here are four things Nastasic did wrong.

1. In that situation, with the game at 1-1 away at the team who are most likely to be our biggest rivals for the league, he should have put the ball in Row Z. No excuses. Don't take chances.

2. When all is said and done, it was Nastasic's header that allowed Torres to score. He headed the ball over Joe Hart. Not the other way round. Whether Hart should have come off his line is a separate issue. He did, The situation was that his goalkeeper was rushing towards him and he didn't deal with that situation properly.

3. It is a cardinal rule of defensive play that if you are playing the ball towards your own dead ball line you make sure you are not playing it away from the goal. In that situation even if Hart had been on his line Nastasic should have headed the ball well away from the goal to avoid the possibility of an own goal. He didn't. The ball would not have gone into the net without Torres finish, but Nastasic should have headed the ball wide enough so that even if Hart was out of position Torres would have been at too wide an angle to score. The direction of his header made it possible for Torres to score.

4. Presumably Hart gave the call and wasn't heard. There was a free kick earlier in the half where he had to bang on the post to be heard because the wall was two has out of position. So if Nastasic was expecting a call and didn't get it, given that he obviously didnt know where Hart was he should have not taken any chances and put it in Row Z. See point 1.

Of course, i am not saying all this to slate Nastasic. The reality is that his errors compounded Hart's error in rushing off his line, and Hart's error in rushing off his line compounded Nastasic's errors. Both players were at fault, not just one. Though you wouldn't think so reading some of the's tripe post in this thread.

The reality is that Chelsea are an exceptionally good side and today we were still (away from home) the better team for about 70 minutes. We lost to a last minute crazy fuck up after a game in which the referee had at times made it 12 v 11. Of course it hurts, of course blues are lashing out, but can we please get a grip.

And let's remember the last time we lost to Chelsea we went on to win the league.

Errrrrrrrm, you seem to have mistaken mine and the post quoted with a Nastasic appreciation thread?

But I'm sure you'll tell me where I have erred...

 

[Ducado]

No idea why Pellegrini refuses to start Milner. After Garcia played the whole match in Moscow (I think!) surely it would have made a lot more sense to play Milner instead of Garcia, irrespective of how poor Garcia generally is!

Maybe Pellegrini thinks Milner is only suitable for the wide right position , which Nasri did well in, or maybe he's making out a case to be the next "Clueless" Man City manager!

Didn't really fancy us to get anything from this game when I saw the line up. Demichalis (spelling?) hadn't kicked a ball for us since his transfer, yet he was given a start at our major rivals for the Title! Another clueless decision if you ask me - what the fuck has Lescott done to keep being left out, he would have been a much safer option to play alongside Demichalis, if pellegrini was going to start with him!

On the Joe Hart front - two words "brain dead". All that Head & Shoulders shampoo has obviously turned his brains to mush. Can someone please tell him that goalkeepers can only handle the ball inside the penalty and rushing out of the box, like a headless chicken, with little or no chance of getting the ball (Villa is another case in point!) is piss poor on his part.

Our away form is really starting to worry me - 4 points from 5 matches is relegation form, not Title winning form. Sort it out asap. Sunderland away next would be a good place to start but I am not holding my breath!

Rant over!

Did you watch the game?

Because it was a silly mistake that undid us (again) not the tactics

 

[Kenny Clements Perm]

And so is your user name.

Great come-back

More than appropriate for a JCL like you.

I honestly have no idea what a JCL is? I'll have to start using the Internet more?

I'm sorry if your comments were predictable and uninteresting. You obviously spent a lot of time writing them and I've been insensitive

 

[bert's broken neck]

No idea why Pellegrini refuses to start Milner. After Garcia played the whole match in Moscow (I think!) surely it would have made a lot more sense to play Milner instead of Garcia, irrespective of how poor Garcia generally is!

Maybe Pellegrini thinks Milner is only suitable for the wide right position , which Nasri did well in, or maybe he's making out a case to be the next "Clueless" Man City manager!

Didn't really fancy us to get anything from this game when I saw the line up. Demichalis (spelling?) hadn't kicked a ball for us since his transfer, yet he was given a start at our major rivals for the Title! Another clueless decision if you ask me - what the fuck has Lescott done to keep being left out, he would have been a much safer option to play alongside Demichalis, if pellegrini was going to start with him!

On the Joe Hart front - two words "brain dead". All that Head & Shoulders shampoo has obviously turned his brains to mush. Can someone please tell him that goalkeepers can only handle the ball inside the penalty and rushing out of the box, like a headless chicken, with little or no chance of getting the ball (Villa is another case in point!) is piss poor on his part.

Our away form is really starting to worry me - 4 points from 5 matches is relegation form, not Title winning form. Sort it out asap. Sunderland away next would be a good place to start but I am not holding my breath!

Rant over!

Did you watch the game?

Because it was a silly mistake that undid us (again) not the tactics

The silly mistake only cost a point - there was no way we were going to win the game, the way we set up. Negredo on the bench was another mystifying decision by Pellegrini, surely he wasn't saving him for Newcastle? No mention of leaving out Milner or Lescott as well. Demichalis making his debut was a big risk and Nastasic hasn't been that good so far this season, so I would have gone with Lescott, who was also on the bench in Moscow.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

Kind of fitting that the cock up at the end was between 2 players who have been performing well below par this season, you can say that the manager can't be blamed for us losing a daft goal like that however he has persisted playing those 2 guys, part of our crucial defence, who have been poor for weeks. I feel for Nastasic, too much has been heaped on him defensively of late and he's not been able to handle it.
In many respects its unbelievable the way this league season is playing out, we've been bloody excellent in so many games...Villa away and now Chelsea away yet cock ups have cost us dear. I sometimes feel we are the best team in the league by a country mile yet bloody good teams don't throw away the amount of points we have repeatedly done so far this season. And poor Joe has been at the centre of so many balls ups, ironically he stays on his line at Cardiff and that costs us, he stays on his line this afternoon and watches a cross land at the feet of Schurle and then a minute into injury, ironically he comes charging off his line when there was no need for it....you couldn't make it up.
Luckily, the teams above us will soon start meeting each other and a lot of points will be dropped by them which gives us the chance to catch up. I'd expect, or should that be "hope", for us to be within 3 points of the lead going into next year and that should leave us nicely placed.
Kun as great again today, Garcia did fine, Clichy has been poor for weeks as well, Silva needs to learn how to take a corner, the new guy at the back had a decent game and I can see him and VK being our central pairing going forward. Fernandinho was immense today, Navas looks lightweight to me, Ya Ya appeared to tire near the end and should have been replaced.
I feel absolutely sick right now to be frank...like I did after the defeats at Cardiff and Villa as well, it's becoming a bit too regular.

That's the biggest load of shit I've ever read

Don't really see what's wrong with what he said.

 

[mcfcgto]

A one off mistake can be blamed on a defender or a goal keeper, but the number of mistakes so far this season can't simply be blamed on individuals. It is incompetent coaching and tactical naivety. I started out optimistic about the new manager, but match by match I'm completely losing faith. Those substitutions cost us badly.

It wasn't the substitutions it's "" no hope of catching anyone " Clichy and No Hope Hart making more balls ups Clichy has always been a waste of space --god knows why he's in the starting line (can't mark anyone with a felt tipped pen let alone on the pitch )and Hart is only good as an instinctive shot saver ----he's no idea when to come or stay and always gets beaten from outside the area

Absolutely fuming AGAIN--

 

[mancityeverton]

I would have won 500 big ones if we had finished them today. im more bothered that we messed up though.

I have loads of problems with the City team at the moment.

Firstly i know Silva is a great dribbler and creates endless chances but he really does need to learn when and how to shoot and score, all this running the ball into the goal is stupid because its allot harder to do and only works now and then. When we get the chance to shoot lets SHOOT.

Second Garcia and Nastasic in my opinion are going to loose s us everything this year and im frustrated to think we have such a great team barring them two, as long as there are our defence we will struggle.lets bring Lescot/company back in and get them two out.
The New guy played fine today in defence but them two are clowns.

Last point is the manager waited too late in the game to bring the BEAST on.


Gutted ........................

 

[brian the blue]

That was all too predictable. We're far too soft and it shows when we go away from home.

Fernandinho, Silva and Aguero were class and didn't deserve to lose.

Yaya was an absolute passenger, just walking around the pitch. It was like playing with 10 men at times.

Hart was at fault for the goal and needs to be replaced.

We're being given a lesson in how to take a top 2 side and transform it into a top 4 side whilst spending £90+million in the process. But hey, as long as we progress out of our easiest CL group we've had then we're on target.

 

[TGR]

Great come-back

More than appropriate for a JCL like you.

I honestly have no idea what a JCL is? I'll have to start using the Internet more?

I'm sorry if your comments were predictable and uninteresting. You obviously spent a lot of time writing them and I've been insensitive

No. You are just an idiot.

 

[bluethunder]

funny comment in guardian article:

"Joe Hart? More like Joe FART!!!"

ahahahahah