City & Chelsea Charged by the FA

[Vialli98]

Fabregas wasn't punished further because he was booked during the melee. I could be wrong, but so was Chalobah.

I remember Chelsea fans being very upset when Aguero didn't get any punishment for the two-footed stamp on Luiz 3 years ago and it was said then that although Aguero wasn't booked for the incident, the ref put in his report that he had seen it, which effectively tied the FA's hands, hence no further punishment. Although a less serious crime, the same applies to Fabregas and Chalobah here.

I think Fabregas could and should have gotten a red for his part in this, but other than that, I think the ref handled the fracas at the end pretty much spot on.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Strikes me that Chelsea 's bigger fine than City indicates that in private those in charge think City got a bad deal by that clown of a referee during the game and Chelsea got off lightly. That said the fact that their fine is much smaller than their last mass brawl against Spurs is bizarre. Serial offenders allowed to reoffend again and again.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

The two clubs were charged for failing to ensure their players conducted themselves in an orderly fashion and/or refrained from provocative behaviour.

I wonder if the FArce will charge PiGMOL with the same offence. Andrew Taylor did not conduct himself in an orderly fashion and he didn't refrain from provocative behaviour.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I have always said the same.

Only in football could you have such an obvious conflict of interests in coorporate governance being ignored.

 

[ultimateharold]

Chelsea's is higher as they have prevous similar charges.

 

[Gordyola]

Fabregas wasn't punished further because he was booked during the melee. I could be wrong, but so was Chalobah.

I remember Chelsea fans being very upset when Aguero didn't get any punishment for the two-footed stamp on Luiz 3 years ago and it was said then that although Aguero wasn't booked for the incident, the ref put in his report that he had seen it, which effectively tied the FA's hands, hence no further punishment. Although a less serious crime, the same applies to Fabregas and Chalobah here.

I think Fabregas could and should have gotten a red for his part in this, but other than that, I think the ref handled the fracas at the end pretty much spot on.

Fabregas was booked for an aggressive attitude Taylor confirmed in his report that he didn't see the slap therefore the FA referred it to a panel who failed to reach a unanimous decision, so he wasn't punished further Chalobah was booked for the shove and so, despite Taylor only booking him, the FA weren't able to take further action. IMHO He did not handle it spot on as failed to red card Chalobah the instigator of the brawl and neither him or his arse-sistants failed to see Fabregas slap Ferdy

 

[Vialli98]

Fabregas was booked for an aggressive attitude Taylor confirmed in his report that he didn't see the slap therefore the FA referred it to a panel who failed to reach a unanimous decision, so he wasn't punished further Chalobah was booked for the shove and so, despite Taylor only booking him, the FA weren't able to take further action. IMHO He did not handle it spot on as failed to red card Chalobah the instigator of the brawl and neither him or his arse-sistants failed to see Fabregas slap Ferdy

Oh, I didn't know this. Not sure why he wasn't punished further then.

On Chalobah, everyone was pushing and shoving. Iheanacho was going absolutely mental in the middle of it. To send Chalobah off would have been harsh, because everyone else involved would have to have been sent off.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Oh, I didn't know this. Not sure why he wasn't punished further then.

On Chalobah, everyone was pushing and shoving. Iheanacho was going absolutely mental in the middle of it. To send Chalobah off would have been harsh, because everyone else involved would have to have been sent off.

No Chalobah. Was first on the scene to sort Aguero out. He inflamed the situation.
Nothing had happened, apart from the challenge, up until his incursion.

 

[Gordyola]

Oh, I didn't know this. Not sure why he wasn't punished further then.

On Chalobah, everyone was pushing and shoving. Iheanacho was going absolutely mental in the middle of it. To send Chalobah off would have been harsh, because everyone else involved would have to have been sent off.

He came over and pushed Aguero over he raised his arms it all kicked off then Inheanacho came over to protest what Chalobah had done and the Chelsea players started man-handling him Like I said Chalobah was the instigator of the brawl and was guilty of violent conduct this is a red card Taylor did not punished him correctly but due to the stupid retrospective process the FA couldn't act

 

[Vialli98]

No Chalobah. Was first on the scene to sort Aguero out. He inflamed the situation.
Nothing had happened, apart from the challenge, up until his incursion.

He came over and pushed Aguero over he raised his arms it all kicked off then Inheanacho came over to protest what Chalobah had done and the Chelsea players started man-handling him Like I said Chalobah was the instigator of the brawl and was guilty of violent conduct this is a red card Taylor did not punished him correctly but due to the stupid retrospective process the FA couldn't act

Perhaps it is the fact that I support the team on the other side of this, that my perspective is different, but most Chelsea fans would look at the Aguero tackle and see that as the instigator. I'm sure City players would stick up for their player if they had suffered a tackle like that. And indeed, they did stuck up for their mate when Aguero was shoved to the ground.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

This whole 'yellow card rule' is preposterous and pure wank in equal measure.

It's fucking insane.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Perhaps it is the fact that I support the team on the other side of this, that my perspective is different, but most Chelsea fans would look at the Aguero tackle and see that as the instigator. I'm sure City players would stick up for their player if they had suffered a tackle like that. And indeed, they did stuck up for their mate when Aguero was shoved to the ground.

I agree. But i would expect any City player in such a situation to get a red card for violent conduct.
It wasn't pretty all round, including Aguero's tackle, but you come across as if all Chelsea's players are saints.
Far fucking from it.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

This whole 'yellow card rule' is preposterous and pure wank in equal measure.

It's fucking insane.

What else do you expect from the "shirts". Most of them haven't got a clue about the game.
It's all about the accounts and the balancing.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

This whole 'yellow card rule' is preposterous and pure wank in equal measure.

It's fucking insane.

The yellow card is just a manipulation tool for authorities. It allows referees to not punish favourites or "important" players in big matches or from big teams, and also allows a referee to prevent players from being retrospectively punished. It basically takes difficult red cards, or incidents that require a modicum of cognitive capability to provide judgement on, out of the referee's hands.

 

[Gordyola]

Perhaps it is the fact that I support the team on the other side of this, that my perspective is different, but most Chelsea fans would look at the Aguero tackle and see that as the instigator. I'm sure City players would stick up for their player if they had suffered a tackle like that. And indeed, they did stuck up for their mate when Aguero was shoved to the ground.

Aguero was totally out of order and got not himself banned but probably our most important player yes if he hadn't done what he did then nothing would have happened, and if Taylor had done his job Luiz wouldn't have been on the pitch, but the instigator of the brawl was Chalobah.

 

[Vialli98]

I agree. But i would expect any City player in such a situation to get a red card for violent conduct.
It wasn't pretty all round, including Aguero's tackle, but you come across as if all Chelsea's players are saints.
Far fucking from it.

But if Chalobah deserved the red for reacting to the tackle, then about 5 more players deserved a red for getting involved after. He didn't do anything others didn't do IMO.

Oh far from it mate. That wasn't my intention. Fabregas is a snide little shit who should have been sent off. Luiz is another snide player who likes to leave his foot or elbow in. And there Costa. We have our fair share of cnuts and I actually like the cnutishness (without being overly malicious and going over the line)

 

[Vialli98]

Aguero was totally out of order and got not himself banned but probably our most important player yes if he hadn't done what he did then nothing would have happened, and if Taylor had done his job Luiz wouldn't have been on the pitch, but the instigator of the brawl was Chalobah.

Luiz should have been sent off. I totally agree. Ref bottled it completely. But I don't see Chalobah as the instigator. He reacted with emotion to a very poor tackle. I was happy with the yellow in that instance.

I appreciate that my perspective here is different from all of yours and I don't want to antagonize anyone reading this by trying to defend Chelsea too vehemently, so I'll log back out very soon :)

 

[sir baconface]

Luiz should have been sent off. I totally agree. Ref bottled it completely. But I don't see Chalobah as the instigator. He reacted with emotion to a very poor tackle. I was happy with the yellow in that instance.

I appreciate that my perspective here is different from all of yours and I don't want to antagonize anyone reading this by trying to defend Chelsea too vehemently, so I'll log back out very soon :)

What you say is actually a fair assessment, IMO.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

The yellow card is just a manipulation tool for authorities. It allows referees to not punish favourites or "important" players in big matches or from big teams, and also allows a referee to prevent players from being retrospectively punished. It basically takes difficult red cards, or incidents that require a modicum of cognitive capability to provide judgement on, out of the referee's hands.

And then when it suits , takes no further action anyway ! When an " independent set of 3 individuals " cannot see from a video that the melee resulted from the Chelsea player pushing Aguero ( who was correctly red carded ) then you can only come to one conclusion which is corruption.

The whole disciplinary system is corrupt , to protect certain teams , and cover for the totally inept and biased referees, such as Anthony Taylor and many others, who regularly fuck up decisions in important matches.

The FA is a total cover up based upon support for the " chosen " teams and their bloody useless referees.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Luiz should have been sent off. I totally agree. Ref bottled it completely. But I don't see Chalobah as the instigator. He reacted with emotion to a very poor tackle. I was happy with the yellow in that instance.

I appreciate that my perspective here is different from all of yours and I don't want to antagonize anyone reading this by trying to defend Chelsea too vehemently, so I'll log back out very soon :)

Agree regarding Luiz but I believe you are totally dismissing the role that Chalobah played in that final melee. That was a red card offence - again bottled by the referee .

Everything totally kicked off from that point , whilst the Fernandinho / Febregas incident happened almost simultaneously , and should have resulted in both players being sent off .