"City dig heels in over Robinho"

[alera]

but it hasn't hurt chelsea, as I say it happens to every club once in a while, you take a loss on a player.

You are basically saying we should accept the Sheva / Crespo option and right off £32 million plus pay a large chunk of his wages. Plus leave ourselves desperately short in the process.

Its not as simple as that, if we let him go out on loan in these circumstances its very unlikley we will ever get anything back for him fee wise as the precedents I mentioned. FIrstly I very much doubt Robinho would be willing to drop his wages in half. Secondly I doubt very much Santos could afford to pay £40 K a week of his wages. There are a lot of ifs and buts I have a problem with especially seing as Robinho and Santos have annouced it as a done deal which clearly conflicts with the position of our club and manager. It certainly doesnt look like the player or Santos are in the mood for compromise, they are not asking for a deal they are demanding it and talking like its already happened !

You ask for facts then ignore them and repeat what you said before. Robinho wants to play in the world cup if we dont give in he doesnt really have the option of sitting in the reserves refusing to play does he ?

 

[Blue Mooner]

you dont fire someone fbloke when he's cost you 32.5m. You subtledy coax them back to form and pander to their needs, basically indicitive with the state on top level premiership football tbh. But Robby back on it would be more spectacular than anything else for City and make the enemies in the game and press truely face their worst fears, basically City playing dreamlike football with a mix of YES, 198% effort and committed football with physical dominance BUT also the combination of home grown talent mixed with genius Brazillian ability... that is when we kick the fuckerz to pieces...

Exactly Matt, every team needs a blend, I think the bit that Robinho needs to understand is that he won't play every game.

It seems that a lot of City fans just want to see players who give it a 100 miles an hour every game but lack the finesse and vision of Robinho, I want to see both and believe that it can work.

Anelka is not they type to go at a game like a bull in a china shop but he fits in with the Chelsea team who have others to do that kind of work.

I want to see a team that has ability, gives effort but also has that player with a touch of class who can do things extraordinary and I believe Robinho 'on form' has that in abundance.

People really do have short memories.

 

[Thatchersforearm]

I just love the fact that we are no mugs for any players to take the piss out of anymore. Ok Robinho hasn't worked out but if he goes he goes on our terms. Thats the difference between us and Chelsea who got rid of their flops (Veron, Crespo, Shevchenko) on loan but paid half their wages. We won't. Inevitably we'll take a hit on the fee we paid for him but luckily we can afford it due to HRH Sheikh Mansour. The reports that we are a substantial loan fee aswell is even better. If we don't get what we require we call Robinho's bluff (quote: 'money isn't everything') and he stays in the reserves.

Come on GC stay strong on this.

 

[bizzbo]

but it hasn't hurt chelsea, as I say it happens to every club once in a while, you take a loss on a player.

You are basically saying we should accept the Sheva / Crespo option and right off £32 million plus pay a large chunk of his wages. Plus leave ourselves desperately short in the process.

Its not as simple as that, if we let him go out on loan in these circumstances its very unlikley we will ever get anything back for him fee wise as the precedents I mentioned.

You ask for facts then ignore them and repeat what you said before. Robinho wants to play in the world cup if we dont give in he doesnt really have the option of sitting in the reserves refusing to play does he ?

calm down dear

i didn't ask for facts

you are assuming city will give santos whatever they want... very big mistake

 

[bluem0ng]

seem to recall the author of said article, Daniel Taylor, was mentioned on here the other week - can't remember what was said about him however the article reads to me like it has been leaked by City.

Daniel Taylor is a snivelling rag turd and takes any oppurtunity to have a swipe at City.

 

[fbloke]

I'm exploring ways in which the club can be seen to do the best for 'the club'.

If he isnt going to play then fine, move him on - but don't do it at the cost of the team building we need to do.

The £32.5m has already been spent but we could save many,many millions more by proving a point to any future signings.

EG we know that Ade has issues at the moment and should be provided all the help needed but he has also shown that he can be as bad as Robinho if things are going his way.

Being strong now could save a lot more in the long run.

I personally don't rate Robinho as a long term prospect in any case as he has a history of being flash in the pan, almost a part time genius.

Bring on Messi i say ;-)

 

[Ramdothy]

neymar ?
okay good news ..
maybe someone say he is post Robbie,
but we have Robbie

hey, in my opinion
if Robbie leave City whatever loan or sell
he will really leave City next summer market

 

[Blue Mooner]

F*ck me people seem to think that Sheikh MAnsour will continually write off £32.5 million !! Are you kidding ? People need to respect our owners money a bit more.

Just because Sheikh Mansour has oceans of cash doesn't mean that he hasn't bought the blues for sound business reasons - ie he won't forever be throwing cash at us. I don't think (but I don't know) that the type of investment we have seen in the last 18 months will continue indefinitely.

Therefore we have an asset worth £32.5 million and if we can't recoup that to any great degree in the immediate future then Robinho needs to stay and prove his worth.

Of course if he wants to play for Brazil he has no option.

To be honest, keeping a player against his will doesn't sit well with me - but the rags managed it successfully - however, if we can support Robinho and he starts enjoying his football again then I don't think he would see a move to Santos anywhere near as an attractive option as staying at the blues and winning trophies.

 

[alera]

I tell you what if we stand our ground and Robinho is still a city player come 2nd Feb I think we will see a much improved attitude and performances from the player. Why ? no chance of a move, no first team football at a decent level = no world cup place.

What 25 year old world class player wants to give up a realistic opportunity of winning the world cup ?

Robinho has been trying for this since the summer. He tried to engineer a move to Barca, we wouldnt have it they wanted a loan, we said no he got injured, he played shit deliberately it would seem so we would let him go.

That didnt work he goes crying home. If that doesnt work with no other option he will have to get his head into gear and play for his place at city and for his world cup spot. Makes perfect sense to me.

 

[dom]

No point in clinging to a lad who can't hack the Prem and wants away.

BUT FFS let's not be taken for a ride ..

Nymar sounds promising.. get him in the Academy asap to get used to the English culture of football ... let's look forward..