City fans asking for Barca fans to be kicked out

[pardoeofftomexico]

The bigger, but very much related, issues are:

a) why do so many blues stay away and why are the club happy with this? (Pricing and being surrounded by away fans imo)

b) why do away fans routinely get chucked out in Premier League games but the club tells their stewards to do the opposite to away fans in European games against certain clubs

and

c) why is the club deliberately putting home end tickets in the hands of away fans or 'guests' that they know are going to be in with the home fans supporting the away team.

The crux of the matter is, if the club wanted it, these tickets could have been in the hands of blues who either turn up most weeks or have been priced out for good but they would rather numpties who are there for the other team take them

No, the crux of the matter is that the club are running a BUSINESS not a charity.

Perhaps you had better tell them that every couple of hundred grand counts so much then. Because the transfer policy seems to suggest that they are completely unaware of this - routinely sanctioning £20m on second rate players who then need to be moved on.

You are numerically illiterate if you think the price of Champions League tickets has any sort of significant impact on City's revenue. But keep spouting nonsense cliches.................

Well, I for one am very numerically literate. If you had any knowledge of accounting you would realise that City have had to be incredibly creative with the way they run their business to have got anywhere near complying with FFP. Every source of income has been very important. The fact that TV revenues, for example, are far in excess of ticket receipts does not mean that the latter are not of great importance. Of course, it is always possible in retrospect to say that we could have saved money by not buying a particular player but all clubs have winners and losers in this respect and we have bought plenty who have become worth far more than we have paid.

On the first question many season ticket holders are not members of the cup scheme and sit in alternative seats. Personally, I am in the CL scheme but not in the FA or LC scheme. Not because I cannot easily afford it. More that the PL and CL provide more than enough games for my liking. Anyone who doesn't go simply because they don't like sitting near opposing supporters has in my eyes some sort of personal problem.

 

[117 M34]

There's quite a few in 117, 2 of them cheered when braca scored, they didn't take the piss but that didn't stop some hero city fans, who I'd never seen at the game before ask, sorry, shout at the stewards to throw them out, which they did. If they were taking the piss I could understand but that was out of order.

The 2 that got kicked out in 117 were a man and his girlfriend (guessing it was his girlfriend.)
When they scored the 1st, he didn't celebrate, he just whooped.
Few city fans told him to shut up / swore at him and he whooped again.
He was taking the piss - it wasn't as if he was celebrating their goal, he just did it to get a reaction.

 

[2bluejacko]

I don't want away fans sat near me cheering when they score, no way... If quiet, possibly different, but if I went in an away end anywhere in the world and jumped up celebrating, I would expect a slap at least

 

[I Live In A Blue House]

South stand 2nd tier Block 220, when Barca scored their 1st big shouts for a woman to be removed from block to the right of me? Can't see anything wrong personally but you know how things are in the heat of the moment! Frustration, anger etc!

 

[PistonBlue]

I'm not totally against away fans sitting near me as long they behave, but then again it wouldn't be accepted for a League game so why should it be accepted for the CL?

What really does piss me off though is this.
We sit in 209, a group of six. Whenever we get through to this stage of the CL four us get moved for the 'UEFA family' is it or some other bollocks. Ok fine, I suppose it UEFA rather than City. But then I find, from the two of our group allowed to sit in their regular seats that four fucking Barcelona supporting, half and half scarf wearing, ipad watching, tourist twats are in our seats.
This cannot be right, it just cannot be right. And obviously we're not the only ones this happens to. As I say nothing against them personally, I guess like most football fans they want to see the likes of Messi in the flesh, I just can't understand why regular City fans are told to shift in order to accommodate them.

This for me is one of the reasons I still can't get that excited about the CL, because it's bollocks.

 

[JOGAMIGMOG]

It's what makes football shit that I can't sit next to a Barca fan, have an insightful conversation with him during the game and yet if he so much as cheers when his team scores he gets abused and thrown out. If the morons who react to their presence with such vitriol could see what knobs they look then I'm sure they'd put a lid on it.

 

[Eccles Blue]

The bigger, but very much related, issues are:

a) why do so many blues stay away and why are the club happy with this? (Pricing and being surrounded by away fans imo)

b) why do away fans routinely get chucked out in Premier League games but the club tells their stewards to do the opposite to away fans in European games against certain clubs

and

c) why is the club deliberately putting home end tickets in the hands of away fans or 'guests' that they know are going to be in with the home fans supporting the away team.

The crux of the matter is, if the club wanted it, these tickets could have been in the hands of blues who either turn up most weeks or have been priced out for good but they would rather numpties who are there for the other team take them

No, the crux of the matter is that the club are running a BUSINESS not a charity.

Perhaps you had better tell them that every couple of hundred grand counts so much then. Because the transfer policy seems to suggest that they are completely unaware of this - routinely sanctioning £20m on second rate players who then need to be moved on.

You are numerically illiterate if you think the price of Champions League tickets has any sort of significant impact on City's revenue. But keep spouting nonsense cliches.................

Oh dear, did I rain on your parade? Pardon me for breathing. I am just stating my opinion & as far as your post read, remembering that I have 2 degrees, one in English, I can't see any reference to our transfer policy, just a reference to pricing & seating. But I could, amidst the pointless rhetoric about the club selling tickets to anyone who is prepared to pay the price, have missed the bit about a player costing £20M.

As for being numerically illiterate, I think you will find that handling budgets of over £1m has meant that I've had to embrace numeracy!

But hey don't let my so called 'nonsense cliches' fool you. I am obviously quite ignorant!!! :-)

 

[FanchesterCity]

I was in 123 last night (as usual) - and it's littered with strangers and potential away fans every CL game. I have mixed feelings on that. The negatives are mostly about it breaking up some of the atmosphere...

However, two morons 3 or 4 rows from the front kicked up a fuss about some Barca fans sat behind them - for no obvious reason other than them supporting Barca. They weren't causing trouble, and in the end it just gives a lousy impression of a) Us the fans, b) English supporters c) The club in general.

If I go to an away game, and for whatever reason I'm mixing it with the home fans, I want to come away thinking I was well treated. It's gives a great impression of the other club. I'd like away fans coming to City to feel the same.

We're (mostly) grown up men these days. Most of us have been abroad, and talked with 'foreigners'... the world's moved on. There really is no need to behave like neanderthals when decent away fans come to City. If we're going to be spending many wonderful years in Europe, we'd better get used to it, because the Etihad is going to be on a lot of foreign fans 'must visit' stadiums. We also need to be mindful that there are Italian and Spanish communities in Manchester who may take the opportunity to come to a game in order to support their home team... but who knows if they might be tempted to make City their second team and start coming to games whilst they live here? Or of course, people might be neutral fans too.

God help anybody who might bring along any Spanish friends to a game, and some neanderthal close by kicks up a fuss that there's a Spaniard in the seats!

 

[2bluejacko]

It's what makes football shit that I can't sit next to a Barca fan, have an insightful conversation with him during the game and yet if he so much as cheers when his team scores he gets abused and thrown out. If the morons who react to their presence with such vitriol could see what knobs they look then I'm sure they'd put a lid on it.

You wouldn't allow it with a rag, scouser, cockney, Geordie, etc so why is it different for a foreign fan... I am talking about their cheering a goal in our fans, if they do it they should expect a bit of shit cos we would if we did it in an away ground

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

It's what makes football shit that I can't sit next to a Barca fan, have an insightful conversation with him during the game and yet if he so much as cheers when his team scores he gets abused and thrown out. If the morons who react to their presence with such vitriol could see what knobs they look then I'm sure they'd put a lid on it.

You wouldn't allow it with a rag, scouser, cockney, Geordie, etc so why is it different for a foreign fan... I am talking about their cheering a goal in our fans, if they do it they should expect a bit of shit cos we would if we did it in an away ground

I don't think our fans would if they did it in the Nou Camp.

We had quite a few Everton fans near us a couple of years ago who celebrated when they scored and as far as I could see they didn't get too much crap. Think a steward had a word and that was that.