City fans attacking City fans, why? ?

[mad4city]

fuckin hell we have a lot of saints that go to our matches !! its like a christian prayer group in here.

shock horror working class men get drunk watching their football team... never saw that coming

Ok, you've said a few things there you might want to re-phrase:

Nobody is being sanctimonious (bar your own pinch of self-righteousness in the above post, if you're honest, possibly?). Anyway, if not going around punching random strangers is "like a Christian Prayer Group", then fine, I'll let you have that one. Do you honestly think it's acceptable to kick off with folk just because you're team lost a game of ball? Seriously? And no, before you or anybody else says it, it doesn't make it in any way understandable. It's my team that lost too. Me and about 50,000 of us. Yet the vast majority of us somehow managed to get back down Wembley Way, resisting the urge to clock the first misfortune that we didn't like the look of.

Getting drunk isn't a problem and nobody is horrified by the fact that there were drunk people at this or any other match. So stop suggesting that is the case on this thread. (Although, some people have condemned drink driving. If you've a problem with their stance, that's your business and I honestly still do hope that the horrible effects of drink driving never darken your door). It's being a twat and not being able to handle your beer, that's a problem. It doesn't make anyone a bigger man to drink one, 10 or a 100 pints. It's how you carry yourself and treat others - drunk or sober - that defines you. Do you disagree? Surely you're not suggesting that pouring a pint down your neck is a free pass to behaving like a dickhead?

Neither is this a Class issue. As a Working Class man who's sank more than my own body weight in pints over the last weekend (and may even do the same next weekend, if I feel like it and the wife let's me ff the leash again), I'd still be adamant that alcohol abuse is not a Class specific problem. Neither is it a defining attribute of the Working Class and it's insulting (and possibly self-depreciating of you?) to suggest so. I might be wrong but I suspect that you too see yourself as Working Class. If so, please (if only as a favour to a complete stranger on the interweb) re-consider how you define being Working Class. At it's best, it has nothing to getting pissed and everything to do with the finer qualities of decency, honesty, dignity, stoicism, everyday heroism and... okay, I'll stop now before I get all misty-eyed.

Anyway, that is all. Rant over. As you were.

 

[Bill]

I'd like a word with the guy who after engaging in conversation with my wife at half time( I was at the loo) decided to prod her in the face. She has a brilliant memory for faces and she is going to point you out to me. When she does I am going to stamp on your head until your ears bleed.

hope she's ok mate, met you at halftime and we had photo taken with Paul Roz

hi mate, yeh she's fine. although i nearly give her a dig myself for not telling me as soon as i got back :) only kidding love.
good to see you and of course rozzi, made of steel that man.

 

[ell]

Just to be positive I didnt see any trouble myself. I sat in 139 but wanted to stand so rather than be a pain in the arse I just moved to 135 for the second half, everyones happy.

 

[stonerblue]

Your perspective on this will undoubtedly be skewed by incidents you witness or experience

I for one went to both finals and experienced no difference between the two.

Tales of undercurrents of violence and an intimidating atmosphere are miles away from my take on it.

I saw what I usually see, groups of lads pissed up, some completely pissed up, groups of lads sober, families all in colours, kids with their faces painted, blokes with their wives and girlfriends, etc, etc.

Put 50,000 people from different walks of life together, anywhere, anytime, with access to alcohol all day and you will see the same set of results. What do you expect?

What some people find acceptable others don't and vice versa.

There may have been a few unsavoury incidents, but if you genuinely thought it was so bad that you wouldn't take your children (as alluded to by some posters), or you think football, and city's fans, are going down the gutter, then you need to get a grip.

Saturday was a choirboy's outing compared to what's gone on in the past.

we have a winner.

 

[mekonmcfc]

fuckin hell we have a lot of saints that go to our matches !! its like a christian prayer group in here.

shock horror working class men get drunk watching their football team... never saw that coming

Ok, you've said a few things there you might want to re-phrase:

Nobody is being sanctimonious (bar your own pinch of self-righteousness in the above post, if you're honest, possibly?). Anyway, if not going around punching random strangers is "like a Christian Prayer Group", then fine, I'll let you have that one. Do you honestly think it's acceptable to kick off with folk just because you're team lost a game of ball? Seriously? And no, before you or anybody else says it, it doesn't make it in any way understandable. It's my team that lost too. Me and about 50,000 of us. Yet the vast majority of us somehow managed to get back down Wembley Way, resisting the urge to clock the first misfortune that we didn't like the look of.

Getting drunk isn't a problem and nobody is horrified by the fact that there were drunk people at this or any other match. So stop suggesting that is the case on this thread. (Although, some people have condemned drink driving. If you've a problem with their stance, that's your business and I honestly still do hope that the horrible effects of drink driving never darken your door). It's being a twat and not being able to handle your beer, that's a problem. It doesn't make anyone a bigger man to drink one, 10 or a 100 pints. It's how you carry yourself and treat others - drunk or sober - that defines you. Do you disagree? Surely you're not suggesting that pouring a pint down your neck is a free pass to behaving like a dickhead?

Neither is this a Class issue. As a Working Class man who's sank more than my own body weight in pints over the last weekend (and may even do the same next weekend, if I feel like it and the wife let's me ff the leash again), I'd still be adamant that alcohol abuse is not a Class specific problem. Neither is it a defining attribute of the Working Class and it's insulting (and possibly self-depreciating of you?) to suggest so. I might be wrong but I suspect that you too see yourself as Working Class. If so, please (if only as a favour to a complete stranger on the interweb) re-consider how you define being Working Class. At it's best, it has nothing to getting pissed and everything to do with the finer qualities of decency, honesty, dignity, stoicism, everyday heroism and... okay, I'll stop now before I get all misty-eyed.

Anyway, that is all. Rant over. As you were.

i have nowehere condoned drink driving, its pathetic of someone to do that

i was bladdered but im a happy drunk and just want to sing and dance like we did back at the club where the coach had parked up. generally it takes 2 people to start a fight one would normally come back with a response to what the other party had done. its hardly a shock that you get a few minor scuffles in 50,000 people. i personally didnt see any trouble. just dejected fans at the final whislte. i stayed to clap wigan and then went and got mightily pissed !!!

 

[KarlTheBlue]

Tbh I just wanted to get the point across that I feel city fans now think they're bigger than other city fans for doing what some can't afford to do, it work at McDonald's, my sister works at Debenhams and goes to uni, renewing season tickets will be hard enough. People telling her that she's not a blue cause she can't trek down to reading on a Tuesday night, I just think it's shit.

 

[Asa's left peg]

fuckin hell we have a lot of saints that go to our matches !! its like a christian prayer group in here.

shock horror working class men get drunk watching their football team... never saw that coming

Ok, you've said a few things there you might want to re-phrase:

Nobody is being sanctimonious (bar your own pinch of self-righteousness in the above post, if you're honest, possibly?). Anyway, if not going around punching random strangers is "like a Christian Prayer Group", then fine, I'll let you have that one. Do you honestly think it's acceptable to kick off with folk just because you're team lost a game of ball? Seriously? And no, before you or anybody else says it, it doesn't make it in any way understandable. It's my team that lost too. Me and about 50,000 of us. Yet the vast majority of us somehow managed to get back down Wembley Way, resisting the urge to clock the first misfortune that we didn't like the look of.

Getting drunk isn't a problem and nobody is horrified by the fact that there were drunk people at this or any other match. So stop suggesting that is the case on this thread. (Although, some people have condemned drink driving. If you've a problem with their stance, that's your business and I honestly still do hope that the horrible effects of drink driving never darken your door). It's being a twat and not being able to handle your beer, that's a problem. It doesn't make anyone a bigger man to drink one, 10 or a 100 pints. It's how you carry yourself and treat others - drunk or sober - that defines you. Do you disagree? Surely you're not suggesting that pouring a pint down your neck is a free pass to behaving like a dickhead?

Neither is this a Class issue. As a Working Class man who's sank more than my own body weight in pints over the last weekend (and may even do the same next weekend, if I feel like it and the wife let's me ff the leash again), I'd still be adamant that alcohol abuse is not a Class specific problem. Neither is it a defining attribute of the Working Class and it's insulting (and possibly self-depreciating of you?) to suggest so. I might be wrong but I suspect that you too see yourself as Working Class. If so, please (if only as a favour to a complete stranger on the interweb) re-consider how you define being Working Class. At it's best, it has nothing to getting pissed and everything to do with the finer qualities of decency, honesty, dignity, stoicism, everyday heroism and... okay, I'll stop now before I get all misty-eyed.

Anyway, that is all. Rant over. As you were.

I'm all confused now! I was born in Rusholme but now live in Sale so I get pissed occasionally but on wine - which catagory do I fall into ?

I know one thing, I won't be rushing down to a final a wembley again.
£260 for 4 tickets, £60 diesel. £27 parking and a bit of food - not even time to have one myself having to drive back.
Then the drowning of the chanting by the pa system, constantly getting up and down to let people go to the toilet (at least they are in control) and for the third time in three years, someone dogging up the days beer and food right next to me. Didn't see much of the trouble that others had - just some pissed up bloke that looked like he was about to punch his wife before he toppled onto the row in front !
Just not my idea of fun, that's all.
Good news is there will be 4 extra tickets going next time - I'm sure there will be a next time.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

I was in Block 134 yesterday and it kicked off in 136 at the final whistle with the ending result being a woman caught flush in the face by a bloke. Needless to say the bloke was ejected but to say myself and my 9 year old lad were shocked was a massive understatement. A total embarrassment to the club and fans alike.

Where abouts were you sat in 136? I was sat there and didn't see it kick off.

i was sat there and it did kick off. the incident i saw was after the final whistle,around row 25 or 26.

 

[Timmmmahhhh]

A Headbutt to the Shoulder

**EDIT - MERGED**

Seriously, who does that?

I was coming down the turret from the 3rd tier on Saturday, and the lad I was with was being quite vocal in the fact that "not one player put the effort in" and someone took exception to this (entitled to his opinion as anyone else).

I was on the other side of the barrier to this guy as we were walking down and my mate and this guy started getting into it verbally and they guy tried getting over the barrier, which I stopped him form doing, not in an aggressive way, the guy didn't take exception to this and was still going at it werbally with my mate.

Then out of no where this little fella (small man syndrome?) jumped up and head butted me, clean in the shoulder then fucked off.

He had nothing to do with the whole thing, just ran up, shouted "is that him?", didn't wait for an answer and dived right in.

Now he was only short and I'm not massively tall so I can only assume he was aiming for my shoulder.

Not only do I not understand why he headbutted my shoulder, can't understand why he got involved, can't understand why the other guy started getting agressive to me my mate over a difference of opinion. My mates about 9 stone piss wet through, this guy was pushing 20, if not more.

We were all there for the same reason, yes emotions were running high, but to kick off about a difference of opinion?

I may have gone off on one from the original question, so, wjhy headbutt someone in the shoulder?

(had a bit of power behind it, if he would have connected with my chin I'm sure I would have felt the effect)

 

[dennishasdoneit]

I was in Block 134 yesterday and it kicked off in 136 at the final whistle with the ending result being a woman caught flush in the face by a bloke. Needless to say the bloke was ejected but to say myself and my 9 year old lad were shocked was a massive understatement. A total embarrassment to the club and fans alike.

Where abouts were you sat in 136? I was sat there and didn't see it kick off.

i was in 136 and didnt see it kick off !!

there weren,t many about when it kicked off, the match had ended. those who stayed to clap wigan would have seen it.