City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

I'm privy to a bit of insider information regards the finances of the CFA sponsorship deals, and some of the figures being bandied about are well off the mark. The bridge deal is worth £150k a year to the club, rising by 7.5% per season, minimum term of three years, maximum of five.
 
norfstander said:
I'm privy to a bit of insider information regards the finances of the CFA sponsorship deals, and some of the figures being bandied about are well off the mark. The bridge deal is worth £150k a year to the club, rising by 7.5% per season, minimum term of three years, maximum of five.
We would have probably got more if we charged the fans a tenner each to have their names emblazoned on it
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
stony said:
ColinLee said:
The original UEFA PDF seems to have dissappeared but are the 2015/16 sanctions not ignored as long as we comply meanwhile?

That's not what that says. It would be nice if someone could clear it up.
It does seem to have disappeared but I read it that some sanctions would be removed as long as we met the 2013/14 target,which we have. Those seemed to be the CL squad restriction and the wage bill one. However my impression was that the transfer spending restriction might be for two seasons, regardless of what happened in the last financial year. But the phrasing was so obtuse that I can't be sure.

I have a copy here it is cut & pasted in-line:

Decision of the Chief Investigator of the CFCB Investigatory Chamber: Settlement Agreement with Manchester City Football Club Limited
Following an investigation under the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations (“CLFFPR”) a settlement agreement was concluded between the UEFA Club Financial Control Body (“CFCB”) Chief Investigator and Manchester City Football Club Limited ("Manchester City") on the basis of Article 14 (1)(b) and Article 15 of the Procedural Rules governing the CFCB.
The settlement was concluded on 16 May 2014 and covers the three sporting seasons 2013/14, 2014/15 and 2015/16. For the duration of the settlement, Manchester City will be subject to on-going restrictions which have been agreed by the club and which are described further below.
A central purpose of the settlement is to ensure that Manchester City becomes break-even compliant within the meaning of the CLFFPR in a short space of time.
 In this regard, Manchester City undertakes to report a maximum break-even deficit of EUR 20 Mio. for the financial year ending in 2014 and a maximum break-even deficit of EUR 10 Mio. for the financial year ending in 2015. In this context certain commercial partnerships were subject to examination. In order to avoid dispute and for the avoidance of doubt, Manchester City has agreed that for the period of the settlement it will not seek to improve the financial terms of two second tier commercial partnerships.
 Furthermore Manchester City agrees that revenues from the sale of assets within their group structure will not be included in future break-even calculations.
 Manchester City accepts that employee benefit expenses cannot be increased during the next two financial periods (2015 & 2016). If Manchester City meets the annual break-even requirements outlined above, this spending limit will be removed for the 2016 financial period.
 Manchester City accepts that for the duration of the settlement it will be subject to a limitation on the number of players that it may include on the “A” list for the purposes of participation in UEFA competitions. Specifically, for season 2014/15 Manchester City may only register a potential maximum of 21 players on the “A” list, instead of the potential maximum of 25 as foreseen in the relevant competition regulations. If MC manages to comply with the annual break-even
target the club shall be released from the restriction as regards the registration of players in UEFA club competitions for the 2015/16 season.
 Manchester City agrees to significantly limit spending in the transfer market for seasons 2014/2015 and 2015/2016. Manchester City further accepts a calculated limitation on the number of new registrations it may include within their “A” List for the purposes of participation in UEFA competitions. This calculation is based on the clubs net transfer position in each respective registration period covered by this agreement.
 Manchester City agrees to pay a total amount of EUR 60 Mio. which will be withheld from any revenues it earns from participating in UEFA competitions commencing in season 2013/14. Of this EUR 60 Mio. an amount of EUR 40 Mio. will be withheld conditionally and will be returned to Manchester City if the club fulfills the operational and financial measures agreed with the UEFA CFCB.
The compliance with the Settlement Agreement will be subject to on-going and in depth monitoring, in accordance with the applicable rules. In this connection, Manchester City also undertakes to provide the CFCB with a Progress Report evidencing its compliance with all relevant conditions agreed on a six monthly basis.
In case Manchester City fails to comply with any of the terms of this Agreement, the UEFA CFCB Chief Investigator shall refer the case to the Adjudicatory Chamber, as foreseen in Art. 15 (4) of the Procedural Rules.
Nyon, 16 May 2014
 
 In this regard, Manchester City undertakes to report a maximum break-even deficit of EUR 20 Mio. for the financial year ending in 2014 and a maximum break-even deficit of EUR 10 Mio. for the financial year ending in

Apologies for linking to the FFP loons web site but this image is a good one for how we were supposed to comply:
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As has been stated when the judgement came out, everything before 2013/14 is irrelevant to the way City are being analysed - so the way I read it, we have at least £30m in the transfer and wages kitty going forward should we wish to spend it. And thats before FFP deductions are made.

£23m loss announced
£16m of loss was FFP fine (€20m). That means...
£7m is our loss before other FFP deductions kick in
£+13m on the total we have available to spend on wages & transfers to comply with OUR FFP penalty fro the 2014/15 season.

Add an extra £50m a year from BASIC sponsorships. (£43m to permanently break even) and it can be seen that we have a huge amount of wriggle room to spend on wages & transfers.

The top wages in the world are £15,6m (including image rights) for Waynus Dickus & £13.3m (excluding image rights) for the Gelled Tumbler. For FFP purposes the figure for the Gelled Tumbler is the highest @£13.3m - as Image rights are NOT wages and are thus excluded from FFP.

As can be seen we could buy TWO players of the very highest quality over 5 year contracts and still just make a profit AND not breech our FFP penalty such is the strength of our accounts (FFP wages =£26.5m) Transfer Fees = £16.5m (gap) * 5 (years of contract to amortise salary over) £82.5m + Sales.
More likely one player of the very highest quality and 2 or 3 at the next level.

The only major issue we really face is the squad size limitation.

NOTE: EDITS DUE TO MIXING UP EUROS AND POUNDS!
 
bobmcfc said:
ColinLee said:
bluechampion7891 said:
it says 80M over 5 years?

edit: if its 80M per year, then the rags can kiss good bye
Ahh, I didn't realise you were talking £50 million a year ;) , I can't see that being correct. Where did that quote come from by the way?

I thought it said an extra 340m from etihad to extend for a further 5 years and then 80m from three new sponsors over 5 years

I make that 84m per year

There has been press speculation that the Etihad sponsorship deal will be extended for a further five years, bringing in an additional £320 million. Given that three years of the deal have already elapsed, that would imply an annual payment of £50 million going forward.

according to this statement, from what I can understand, it seems that the existing arrangement, which has been running for 3 years has had 5 years added to it, and a total of 320M pounds.

If we take the etihad deal to be worth 400M over 10 years, then for the next 7 years we have 280M of the existing deal left and adding 340M and 5 years means that the new deal would be worth 620M over 12 years. Thats about 50M per year, so an additional 10M/year
 
Since UEFA have ruled Etihad to be a legal deal, could they even stop us if we renegotiated to something ridiculous like that PSG/Qatar one? Say, £120m per year?
 
bobmcfc said:
norfstander said:
I'm privy to a bit of insider information regards the finances of the CFA sponsorship deals, and some of the figures being bandied about are well off the mark. The bridge deal is worth £150k a year to the club, rising by 7.5% per season, minimum term of three years, maximum of five.
We would have probably got more if we charged the fans a tenner each to have their names emblazoned on it
Didn't the fan's get charged £90 for a City Circle that we've still heard nothing concrete about?
 
LoveCity said:
Since UEFA have ruled Etihad to be a legal deal, could they even stop us if we renegotiated to something ridiculous like that PSG/Qatar one? Say, £120m per year?

Nope
 
Re: City & FFP (continued)

LoveCity said:
Since UEFA have ruled Etihad to be a legal deal, could they even stop us if we renegotiated to something ridiculous like that PSG/Qatar one? Say, £120m per year?


No but our owners do everything above board and no one will offer that much..
 

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