City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[jonmcity]

Since UEFA have ruled Etihad to be a legal deal, could they even stop us if we renegotiated to something ridiculous like that PSG/Qatar one? Say, £120m per year?

Nope

They couldn't as things stand, but I'm pretty sure they'd find a way to do so. Don't think Etihad would be too keen on paying well over the odds just to help City either.

Only two second tier sponsorship deals are excluded if increased.

 

[jonmcity]

Where would the club go if the pinch cost us the title or we end up trophy less? We could of withstood the pinch if it was on a level playing field, but with clubs spending big, and transfer fees & TV revenues increasing then surely we will have to play catch up again soon.
How about Scott Sinclair to NY for $50M, if Chel$ki can do it with Luis then why can't we ;-)

Because the New York Yankees would hardly accept that price?... They are part owners you know, $50m means $10m out of their pockets.
And you don´t bulldooze the guys that own the stadium you must use

Sales to City Group are excluded from revenue calculations

 

[Maly]

Where would the club go if the pinch cost us the title or we end up trophy less? We could of withstood the pinch if it was on a level playing field, but with clubs spending big, and transfer fees & TV revenues increasing then surely we will have to play catch up again soon.
How about Scott Sinclair to NY for $50M, if Chel$ki can do it with Luis then why can't we ;-)

Because the New York Yankees would hardly accept that price?... They are part owners you know, $50m means $10m out of their pockets.
And you don´t bulldooze the guys that own the stadium you must use

Sales to City Group are excluded from revenue calculations

Just out of interest (if you know) would that also include player sales/loan costs within CFG?

 

[Damocles]

Where would the club go if the pinch cost us the title or we end up trophy less? We could of withstood the pinch if it was on a level playing field, but with clubs spending big, and transfer fees & TV revenues increasing then surely we will have to play catch up again soon.
How about Scott Sinclair to NY for $50M, if Chel$ki can do it with Luis then why can't we ;-)

Because the New York Yankees would hardly accept that price?... They are part owners you know, $50m means $10m out of their pockets.
And you don´t bulldooze the guys that own the stadium you must use

Sales to City Group are excluded from revenue calculations

I don't think that's necessarily true. They certain implied that, but the exact wording was something like they'd be more transparent in the way that they booked revenue or something wasn't it?

 

[unexpected item]

Because the New York Yankees would hardly accept that price?... They are part owners you know, $50m means $10m out of their pockets.
And you don´t bulldooze the guys that own the stadium you must use

Sales to City Group are excluded from revenue calculations

I don't think that's necessarily true. They certain implied that, but the exact wording was something like they'd be more transparent in the way that they booked revenue or something wasn't it?

Furthermore Manchester City agrees that revenues from the sale of assets within their group structure will not be included in future break-even calculations.

So, we can't sell assets to other areas of the CFG to generate revenue - fair enough, but it's proof that these rules are being amended on the fly just to hinder us. Expect to see some other amendments (FFP must be a dynamic framework according to Platini) to cover loans between CFG clubs, and other areas that the cartel clubs tell UEFA to look into.

 

[Maly]

Sales to City Group are excluded from revenue calculations

I don't think that's necessarily true. They certain implied that, but the exact wording was something like they'd be more transparent in the way that they booked revenue or something wasn't it?

Furthermore Manchester City agrees that revenues from the sale of assets within their group structure will not be included in future break-even calculations.

So, we can't sell assets to other areas of the CFG to generate revenue - fair enough, but it's proof that these rules are being amended on the fly just to hinder us. Expect to see some other amendments (FFP must be a dynamic framework according to Platini) to cover loans between CFG clubs, and other areas that the cartel clubs tell UEFA to look into.

If we can't show assets sold to other teams in CFG on the books, then I'd take it as read that any transfers between CFG clubs won't count towards FFP. That's on the presumption that players are considered assets in the world of accounting, which I have no idea about.

 

[the talisman]

I don't think that's necessarily true. They certain implied that, but the exact wording was something like they'd be more transparent in the way that they booked revenue or something wasn't it?

Furthermore Manchester City agrees that revenues from the sale of assets within their group structure will not be included in future break-even calculations.

So, we can't sell assets to other areas of the CFG to generate revenue - fair enough, but it's proof that these rules are being amended on the fly just to hinder us. Expect to see some other amendments (FFP must be a dynamic framework according to Platini) to cover loans between CFG clubs, and other areas that the cartel clubs tell UEFA to look into.

If we can't show assets sold to other teams in CFG on the books, then I'd take it as read that any transfers between CFG clubs won't count towards FFP. That's on the presumption that players are considered assets in the world of accounting, which I have no idea about.

I think the rule is, we can't count anything that would improve our FFP position, but they can count anything they fucking like as long as it weakens us.
They're not making it up as they go along, they are being 'dynamic'.

 

[Chappie]

If FFP is working,why are transfer fees going higher and higher ?

 

[aguero93:20]

If FFP is working,why are transfer fees going higher and higher ?

Increased TV and prize money for the top leagues = inflation.

There should be a bit of a plateau when Barcelona and Real Madrid are forced to share their domestic TV money, although the new BT CL deal for English clubs might cancel it out.

 

[Cobwebcat]

FFP will be dead in the water after April. At least a better than 50% chance. Then what will we talk about?!