City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

aguero93:20 said:
Chappie said:
If FFP is working,why are transfer fees going higher and higher ?

Increased TV and prize money for the top leagues = inflation.

There should be a bit of a plateau when Barcelona and Real Madrid are forced to share their domestic TV money, although the new BT CL deal for English clubs might cancel it out.
Whatever short term relative weaknesses the Premier League has displayed in the Champions League recent years it can only be temporary. English football will dwarf the rest, financially, going forward.

Scudamore gets a lot of stick on here, but from a business perspective he's done a quite remarkable job.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
aguero93:20 said:
Chappie said:
If FFP is working,why are transfer fees going higher and higher ?

Increased TV and prize money for the top leagues = inflation.

There should be a bit of a plateau when Barcelona and Real Madrid are forced to share their domestic TV money, although the new BT CL deal for English clubs might cancel it out.
Whatever short term relative weaknesses the Premier League has displayed in the Champions League recent years it can only be temporary. English football will dwarf the rest, financially, going forward.

Scudamore gets a lot of stick on here, but from a business perspective he's done a quite remarkable job.

Probably from the same people who think Soriano is doing a substandard job and should be sacked. :)
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
aguero93:20 said:
Chappie said:
If FFP is working,why are transfer fees going higher and higher ?

Increased TV and prize money for the top leagues = inflation.

There should be a bit of a plateau when Barcelona and Real Madrid are forced to share their domestic TV money, although the new BT CL deal for English clubs might cancel it out.
Whatever short term relative weaknesses the Premier League has displayed in the Champions League recent years it can only be temporary. English football will dwarf the rest, financially, going forward.

Scudamore gets a lot of stick on here, but from a business perspective he's done a quite remarkable job.

Yes, he has. Even more remarkable when you consider the utter dimwit club chairmen he's had to work with. Hell bent on shooting themselves in the foot by unilaterally implementing their own FFP rules for example, to the pure detriment of the league compared to other competing leagues. Scudamore must have been tearing his hair out over that one.
 
Chippy_boy said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
aguero93:20 said:
Increased TV and prize money for the top leagues = inflation.

There should be a bit of a plateau when Barcelona and Real Madrid are forced to share their domestic TV money, although the new BT CL deal for English clubs might cancel it out.
Whatever short term relative weaknesses the Premier League has displayed in the Champions League recent years it can only be temporary. English football will dwarf the rest, financially, going forward.

Scudamore gets a lot of stick on here, but from a business perspective he's done a quite remarkable job.

Yes, he has. Even more remarkable when you consider the utter dimwit club chairmen he's had to work with. Hell bent on shooting themselves in the foot by unilaterally implementing their own FFP rules for example, to the pure detriment of the league compared to other competing leagues. Scudamore must have been tearing his hair out over that one.

The thing with german and Spanish football is they are established monopolies for their big clubs. English football is richer but the wealth is spread further and thinner with clubs dropping in and out of the money. RM, Barca, Bayern can almost guarantee CL football and domestic success. That attracts players and sponsors but as a fan I much prefer our system even though we were at the arse end of it for years.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
stony said:
ColinLee said:
The original UEFA PDF seems to have dissappeared but are the 2015/16 sanctions not ignored as long as we comply meanwhile?

That's not what that says. It would be nice if someone could clear it up.
It does seem to have disappeared but I read it that some sanctions would be removed as long as we met the 2013/14 target,which we have. Those seemed to be the CL squad restriction and the wage bill one. However my impression was that the transfer spending restriction might be for two seasons, regardless of what happened in the last financial year. But the phrasing was so obtuse that I can't be sure.


Its here <a class="postlink" href="http://www.uefa.org/MultimediaFiles/Download/OfficialDocument/uefaorg/ClubFinancialControl/02/10/69/00/2106900_DOWNLOAD.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.uefa.org/MultimediaFiles/Dow ... WNLOAD.pdf</a>
 
FFP Restriction - Has anyone got a clue???

Aside from the squad restrictions in CL nobody seems to have handle on our financial restrictions ... Ranging from no restrictions to a figure of around £18m + any money from jan sales of players ... ????????????????
 
Re: FFP Restriction - Has anyone got a clue???

TrueBlue1705 said:
Aside from the squad restrictions in CL nobody seems to have handle on our financial restrictions ... Ranging from no restrictions to a figure of around £18m + any money from jan sales of players ... ????????????????
I'm going to merge this with the FFP thread in the main forum if you don't mind but the answer is that the only specific figure that's ever been mentioned is the net spend of €60m, which Khaldoon said applied to last summer's transfer window. Apart from that, no one seems to have any clue.
 
Said this in the Messi thread but the fact that UEFA and City seem happy for the sanctions next summer to be shrouded in mystery suggest to me that they are both happy with the agreement but don't want it general knowledge, Which suggests to me it suits us and it would be the Arsenals of this world that would be up in arms if it was made known. That's my hope anyway.
I assume UEFA will know by the opening of the summer window if we have made a profit and then, firstly they can't be seen to be continuing punishments and they can throw our profit back at any complaints from the cartel for lifting of sanctions.
 
Seeing how after months of debate on here hasn't really ended in a definitive answer, signing bony for 30 mil plus is surely a massive risk regarding the spending cap. Particularly if UEFA deem our figure for Mangala to be incorrect which they might. Basically betting everything on it being done yearly and not by season. Given how elastic a definition UEFA have left themselves to work with, that is a massive risk.
 
blueparrot said:
Said this in the Messi thread but the fact that UEFA and City seem happy for the sanctions next summer to be shrouded in mystery suggest to me that they are both happy with the agreement but don't want it general knowledge, Which suggests to me it suits us and it would be the Arsenals of this world that would be up in arms if it was made known. That's my hope anyway.
I assume UEFA will know by the opening of the summer window if we have made a profit and then, firstly they can't be seen to be continuing punishments and they can throw our profit back at any complaints from the cartel for lifting of sanctions.
I thought the other clubs had to be made aware of the details when they were offered the chance to oppose them? If that is true then I'm astonished it hasn't "accidentally" leaked out somewhere along the line.

For the purposes of FFP we were actually circa £13 million in profit with this set of accounts due to the allowable right offs (the "fine" in particular). Strange how none of the media bothered with that little detail really...

Prestwich_Blue said:
ColinLee said:
That's right. I estimate our allowable expenses to be in the region of £20m, plus the UEFA fine which makes a total of £36m we can add back to the £23m loss. That gives us an FFP surplus of around £13m as against our maximum allowable loss (under the sanctions) of €20m, which is about £16m. So we should've cleared it by nearly £30m.
 

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