aguero93:20 said:Does anyone read the fucking rules??BBC Sportsday said:Football 11:10
Arsene Wenger believes Uefa needs to show it means business when the sanctions are confirmed against Manchester City and Paris St-Germain for breaching financial fair play rules.
Uefa is understood to have made a settlement offer to the clubs that they will have a limit placed on the total wage bill for next season's Champions League squad.
The final sanctions are due to be confirmed next week and Arsenal manager Wenger said: "There are rules to apply for the financial fair play. I want to see that respected, if that is not respected, then the financial fair play will have problems to be respected in the future because everyone will just not consider it at all."
That's worded for new registrations, won't happen, besides, they're in order of severity, PSG got a fine, they've transgressed worse than we have.Chippy_boy said:aguero93:20 said:UEFA:Sanctions may include a reprimand, aChippy_boy said:As I understand it, that is one of the possible sanctions.
Interestingly if they were to go for that, it couldn't *possibly* be because we have the highest wage bill and therefore it would hurt us badly. That would be just pure coincidence, wouldn't it.
fine, withholding of prize monies, points
deductions, refusal to register players
for UEFA competitions, reducing a club’s
permitted squad size.
Nope. From UEFA:
a) warning
b) reprimand
c) fine
d) deduction of points
e) withholding of revenues from a UEFA competition
f) prohibition on registering new players in UEFA competitions
g) restriction on the number of players that a club may register for participation in UEFA competitions, including a financial limit on the overall aggregate cost of the employee benefits expenses of players registered on the A-list for the purposes of UEFA club competitions
h) disqualification from competitions in progress and/or exclusion from future competitions
i) withdrawal of a title or award
aguero93:20 said:That's worded for new registrations, won't happen, besides, they're in order of severity, PSG got a fine, they've transgressed worse than we have.Chippy_boy said:aguero93:20 said:UEFA:Sanctions may include a reprimand, a
fine, withholding of prize monies, points
deductions, refusal to register players
for UEFA competitions, reducing a club’s
permitted squad size.
Nope. From UEFA:
a) warning
b) reprimand
c) fine
d) deduction of points
e) withholding of revenues from a UEFA competition
f) prohibition on registering new players in UEFA competitions
g) restriction on the number of players that a club may register for participation in UEFA competitions, including a financial limit on the overall aggregate cost of the employee benefits expenses of players registered on the A-list for the purposes of UEFA club competitions
h) disqualification from competitions in progress and/or exclusion from future competitions
i) withdrawal of a title or award
Pretty sure it was officially stated that they were in order of severity when they were published, if I find them I'll post them. Personally I think we'd accept any of the top 3 without a fuss (depending on the fine, UEFA's own regulations on sanctions have a maximum fine of either e100,000 or e1,000,000, don't think that would bother us) and that's what we'll get if anything.Chippy_boy said:aguero93:20 said:That's worded for new registrations, won't happen, besides, they're in order of severity, PSG got a fine, they've transgressed worse than we have.Chippy_boy said:Nope. From UEFA:
a) warning
b) reprimand
c) fine
d) deduction of points
e) withholding of revenues from a UEFA competition
f) prohibition on registering new players in UEFA competitions
g) restriction on the number of players that a club may register for participation in UEFA competitions, including a financial limit on the overall aggregate cost of the employee benefits expenses of players registered on the A-list for the purposes of UEFA club competitions
h) disqualification from competitions in progress and/or exclusion from future competitions
i) withdrawal of a title or award
I agree we won't be getting it.
But I don't agree on your intrepretation on the wording, which seems pretty plain to me that one of the possible sanctions is to put a cap on the total payroll+benefits costs of all the players playing in the CL. It's pretty plain.
2nd, although it is clear that the list above has minor sanctions near the top and the most severe at the bottom, I don't see anywhere where it says they are in order and cannot be used out of sequence, especially if it suited the twats to do so for some contrived reason.
Still, I don't think we are getting any severe sanctions personally, so it's all a bit irrelevant.
Mainly for the part highlighted above.aguero93:20 said:Not too sure that's genuine PB, if we were going to land on that figure after the wage exemption and still fail, then we wouldn't have been allowed to use it (wouldn't have made the difference between a pass and a fail), also it's contrary to the reports that PSG's deal was negotiated down, as the full amount has been allowed in 12/13. Also they can't completely disallow the IP sales etc, which seems to have been done here, even if they disagree they have to attempt to negotiate them down to fair market value, they've just been deleted in that pic.Prestwich_Blue said:Looks like they've disallowed the image rights deal as others have said plus that sale of IP the year before. But even if they'd allowed those we'd still have failed. I was under the impression that our infrastructure & youth development costs over both years were £35m/€40m. Based on that we'd need to show a decent profit (£25m) this year to avoid failing again.
Not genuine for me, too many things not adding up.
Glad I'm not that PSG fan.abu13 said:I think PSG will be the ones to throw the shit at the fan
To be fair it's been a pretty much flap free zone all things considered. Especially considering the rest of the site recently...more lazy than useless said:Rolee said:more lazy than useless said:Still speculation, but it seems (in some quarters) to be becoming more refined guessing with each passing day. Although, there's still plenty of wild conjecture and angry bitterness.
The EUFA 'committee' met yesterday and today but we won't hear anything official until some point next week. Some have suggested early-ish in the week.
Thanks mate, saves me wading through the flapping.
No probs.
Just sit back and enjoy the weekend (and Monday evening!)
Come back to this thread Tuesday, all the flapping will still be here to enjoy at your leisure, and we can enjoy the outcome - whatever it is - because it can't be anywhere near as bad as most on here are worrying it will be.
I'm going to keep dipping into the thread over the weekend, its fascinating. Like watching a car crash in slowmo; you know you shouldn't, but you just can't help yourself!
I'm no cynic said:Glad I'm not that PSG fan.abu13 said:I think PSG will be the ones to throw the shit at the fan