City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

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Re: City & FFP (continued)

A possible new twist, or more paper.........

London Evening Standard.

Manchester City go into tonight’s title-defining match against Aston Villa knowing that a heavy Uefa fine for their breach of Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules may also hit the club’s wage spending in next season’s Premier League.



The level of fine City face is currently the subject of negotiations between the club and the European governing body and while it would be surprising if they face the same £49million punishment — payable over three years — that Paris St Germain must pay, there will be a heavy financial cost.

Standard Sport understands that the Premier League are awaiting the resolution of Uefa’s negotiations with City before deciding whether the fine imposed on the club should count towards their own new FFP regime.

Their new rules stipulate that a club may only increase wages by £4m next season unless they up their revenues to cover a lift beyond that.

City’s revenues may be offset against a Uefa fine to limit the wages lift, potentially affecting the amount they can offer summer targets including Fernando and Eliaquim Mangala, of Porto, and Arsenal’s Bacary Sagna.

City are refusing to respond to Uefa leaks on the FFP sanctions process, considering the idea of making the deliberations akin to a running transfer market saga to be an undignified one.

But they do face a difficult decision if they cannot resolve their disagreement with Uefa over how seriously in breach they are.

Though Uefa president Michel Platini has stated that FFP defaulters will not be banned from the Champions League, clubs who refuse to accept the FFP sanction and ultimately take European football’s governing body to the Court of Arbitration for Sport do face that risk.

For now, City are attempting to prevent the saga overshadowing a prospective second title in three seasons, with a win against Villa tonight meaning that a draw at home to West Ham on Sunday would see them home.

Though City’s superior defensive qualities seem likely to prove decisive in the final chase for the finishing line with Liverpool, there is certainly a patched-up look to Manuel Pellegrini’s squad.

He hopes to have Argentina striker Sergio Aguero — missing tonight with a groin problem — fit to face West Ham, though admitted ahead of this match that Yaya Toure, his most influential player this season, has been struggling to finish games. Of his decision to remove Toure after an hour of Saturday’s 3-2 win at Everton, Pellegrini said: “I just made the change because he is coming from his [muscle] injury and so he is not able to play 90 minutes but he didn’t have any problems in the last game.”

Captain Vincent Kompany has also been struggling to make it through games and described how at Goodison Park he felt like he had been playing “with a plaster around my knee the last weeks”.

Though he insists he is now fine, he has not looked imperious lately and the pace of Andreas Weimann, who scored in Villa’s 3-2 Premier League win over City eight months ago, creates grounds for concern. The Liverpool camp may be in a desperately disconsolate mood after the Crystal Palace result but Villa’s pace can boost the Merseysiders’ fragile hopes.

“An incredible team on the counter- attack and better away from home,” is how Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers described Villa last week.

Pellegrini’s strategy is to refuse any discussion about the quality either of his own team or the opposition.

“I don’t want to talk more about the title race,” he said heading tonight’s game. “We just have to think about the next game. We have games here at home. All the other things we can analyse when the race is over.”

Sky Sports 1, 7.45pm

so we'll set 2 x precedents if we accept the Cartels's kind offer

1 for UEFA

and then open the door for the Premier Leagues own biased version on top

fuck that

Take it legal City

 

[GXCity]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

A possible new twist, or more paper.........

London Evening Standard.

Manchester City go into tonight’s title-defining match against Aston Villa knowing that a heavy Uefa fine for their breach of Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules may also hit the club’s wage spending in next season’s Premier League.



The level of fine City face is currently the subject of negotiations between the club and the European governing body and while it would be surprising if they face the same £49million punishment — payable over three years — that Paris St Germain must pay, there will be a heavy financial cost.

Standard Sport understands that the Premier League are awaiting the resolution of Uefa’s negotiations with City before deciding whether the fine imposed on the club should count towards their own new FFP regime.

Their new rules stipulate that a club may only increase wages by £4m next season unless they up their revenues to cover a lift beyond that.

City’s revenues may be offset against a Uefa fine to limit the wages lift, potentially affecting the amount they can offer summer targets including Fernando and Eliaquim Mangala, of Porto, and Arsenal’s Bacary Sagna.

City are refusing to respond to Uefa leaks on the FFP sanctions process, considering the idea of making the deliberations akin to a running transfer market saga to be an undignified one.

But they do face a difficult decision if they cannot resolve their disagreement with Uefa over how seriously in breach they are.

Though Uefa president Michel Platini has stated that FFP defaulters will not be banned from the Champions League, clubs who refuse to accept the FFP sanction and ultimately take European football’s governing body to the Court of Arbitration for Sport do face that risk.

For now, City are attempting to prevent the saga overshadowing a prospective second title in three seasons, with a win against Villa tonight meaning that a draw at home to West Ham on Sunday would see them home.

Though City’s superior defensive qualities seem likely to prove decisive in the final chase for the finishing line with Liverpool, there is certainly a patched-up look to Manuel Pellegrini’s squad.

He hopes to have Argentina striker Sergio Aguero — missing tonight with a groin problem — fit to face West Ham, though admitted ahead of this match that Yaya Toure, his most influential player this season, has been struggling to finish games. Of his decision to remove Toure after an hour of Saturday’s 3-2 win at Everton, Pellegrini said: “I just made the change because he is coming from his [muscle] injury and so he is not able to play 90 minutes but he didn’t have any problems in the last game.”

Captain Vincent Kompany has also been struggling to make it through games and described how at Goodison Park he felt like he had been playing “with a plaster around my knee the last weeks”.

Though he insists he is now fine, he has not looked imperious lately and the pace of Andreas Weimann, who scored in Villa’s 3-2 Premier League win over City eight months ago, creates grounds for concern. The Liverpool camp may be in a desperately disconsolate mood after the Crystal Palace result but Villa’s pace can boost the Merseysiders’ fragile hopes.

“An incredible team on the counter- attack and better away from home,” is how Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers described Villa last week.

Pellegrini’s strategy is to refuse any discussion about the quality either of his own team or the opposition.

“I don’t want to talk more about the title race,” he said heading tonight’s game. “We just have to think about the next game. We have games here at home. All the other things we can analyse when the race is over.”

Sky Sports 1, 7.45pm

I wouldn't worry too much about the PL FFP wage restrictions. City added the Mancini and his backroom staffs payoffs to the wage bill instead of it being a one off payment. By artificially increasing the wage bill we have given ourselves extra room to increase wages as required.

 

[trotsky]

City & FFP (continued)

UEFA stance on FFP - You have overspent beyond your means, here's a 50 million pound fine!? The logic is simply crazy and exposed the FFP rules for what they really are, an attack on our club.

Pull out of the Champions league I say, we are unlikely to make 50 million out of the competition so better to leave it. Throw money at Messi, Ronaldo, Bale and deprive the UEFA competition of it's main stars, then start up a rival European governing body, with a new competition (Euro Premier League) and attract clubs with bigger prize money.

Sky did it with the darts and the PDC is now far bigger than the original equivalent. Eventually all the big boys will follow.

These corrupt twats at UEFA think they can make things up as they go along.

We have complied with the regulations then they have simply changed the rules. Who aevtheybtonjudge what 'fair value' is? Fair value is what someone is prepared to pay, it's a cartel, plain and simple, and it needs to be broken up.

Go easy on your space bar mate.

Who

are

you,

telling folk what to do.

Michelle

Platini

?

;-)

 

[aguero93:20]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

UEFA stance on FFP - You have overspent beyond your means, here's a 50 million pound fine!? The logic is simply crazy and exposed the FFP rules for what they really are, an attack on our club.

Pull out of the Champions league I say, we are unlikely to make 50 million out of the competition so better to leave it. Throw money at Messi, Ronaldo, Bale and deprive the UEFA competition of it's main stars, then start up a rival European governing body, with a new competition (Euro Premier League) and attract clubs with bigger prize money.

Sky did it with the darts and the PDC is now far bigger than the original equivalent. Eventually all the big boys will follow.

These corrupt twats at UEFA think they can make things up as they go along.

We have complied with the regulations then they have simply changed the rules. Who aevtheybtonjudge what 'fair value' is? Fair value is what someone is prepared to pay, it's a cartel, plain and simple, and it needs to be broken up.

Go easy on your space bar mate.

Who

are

you,

telling folk what to do.

Michelle

Platini

?

;-)

This

is

the

enter

key.

This is the space bar. ;)

 

[bluenova]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Could anyone tell me why Liverpool was not looked at at all?

I have search the FFP rules and can't see anywhere where it says that the licensing requirements and associated FFP obligations do not apply for new applicants.

Honestly, I think they have just made it up on the fly so as to let Liverpool off the hook. After all, the rules were made up to help Liverpool, Arsenal and the like, so they can't have them hurting those clubs can they.

Whilst I enjoy a little Liverpool bashing myself, this does make sense. It's the first year of FFP, and they have spend months reviewing accounts of the clubs from previous years. If they had opened that up to 'possibles' then it would have taken a lot longer. I suspect they may in future years as it won't take as long to audit those they've done previously.

As far as City go, I'll be astonished if the fine is the same as PSG (which is where the £49m appears to have come from). PSG have taken the piss big time with the Qatari deal - if that was waved through without a huge penalty, then it would be impossible for FFP to work at all. City have possibly fudged the books, but not to anything like the same extent, and frankly if the team in 7th place are negotiating a £60m a year kit deal - what is the value of a team that actually has a chance to win a second title in three years.

 

[jrb]

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I think we need to change the words.

"Michel Platini, can you hear me, your Boys took a hell of a beating!"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqZTP8-8wIs[/youtube]

 

[st. blue]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Increased TV revenue.

Does this help at all?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2621731/Man-City-set-95m-TV-money-win-league-bottom-earn-United-season.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... eason.html</a>

Man City set for £95m in TV money if they win the league... and bottom side to earn more than United last season


The Premier League champions stand to rake in £95million from TV money this season while even the bottom club will earn £63million.
The huge value of new £5.5billion Premier League broadcast deals will be highlighted by the fact that whoever finishes bottom of the table on Sunday should earn more from TV money than the £60.8million Manchester United were paid after winning the league last season.
The new champions are expected to be paid £35million more, and the bottom club around £24million more than QPR earned after finishing bottom last season.


The Premier League has confirmed its merit money payments of £1.2million for every place each club finishes up the table, rising to £24million for the champions. That represents a 60per cent rise on last season.
Facility fees of £750,000 will be paid to a club for every live TV appearance, with a minimum payment of £7.5million.


There has been no confirmation from the league of the equal shares that will be paid to clubs for domestic and overseas broadcasting deals, but they are expected to rise by 60per cent and 70per cent respectively - in line with the increases in those deals - to £23million and £32million per club.
The huge rise in income should help a number of clubs turn their financial fortunes around, especially if they have been able to minimise wage bill rises for players this season.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Though Uefa president Michel Platini has stated that FFP defaulters will not be banned from the Champions League, clubs who refuse to accept the FFP sanction and ultimately take European football’s governing body to the Court of Arbitration for Sport do face that risk.

WTF ? They seriously think they can get away with that in a court that isn't led by kangaroos ? Astonishing.

 

[jrb]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Though Uefa president Michel Platini has stated that FFP defaulters will not be banned from the Champions League, clubs who refuse to accept the FFP sanction and ultimately take European football’s governing body to the Court of Arbitration for Sport do face that risk.

WTF ? They seriously think they can get away with that in a court that isn't led by kangaroos ? Astonishing.

Basically it's a threat. Accept the punishment, or you could/will be banned from next seasons CL. The end.

 

[BlueDejong]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

Paul Hayward ‏@_PaulHayward 18h
So Man City are going to be fined £50m for putting too much money in but the Glazers are not fined for taking lots of money out. FFP.

Paul Hayward ‏@_PaulHayward 18h
The City-United comparison was to make a point about the arbitrary nature of FFP. I know it's about spend-what-you-earn.

Paul Hayward ‏@_PaulHayward 1h
Man City tried to comply with FFP. PSG didn't. But they're being treated the same. Tells you a lot about Qatari influence in world football.

Paul Hayward ‏@_PaulHayward 1h
Ok, City tried and failed. The point was about PSG, who aren't objecting to their punishment. Uefa's scale of justice not working.

Paul Hayward ‏@_PaulHayward 1h
A pattern of pro-Uefa views from, say, Chelsea and Arsenal fans. Both have billionaires. FFP is to protect Europe's cartel from 'new' money.

Paul Hayward ‏@_PaulHayward 52m
Try to avoid moral relativism, but Barcelona's Neymar tax fraud far more offensive than Man City's summer splurge. Campus at PSG? Unlikely.

Paul Hayward ‏@_PaulHayward 14h
Man City's £50m fine is arbitrary nonsense. Comment <a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/10812167/Uefa-missing-the-real-targets-with-their-50-million-fine-for-Manchester-City.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -City.html</a> …

Fucking agree, Paul.