City, how different to the Glazers?

[Bill]

our owners are a class act in every dept, we have to trust in them to find the right formula to meet demand as our success grows.
they didn't buy city on a whim, like some sort of lottery out of a bag, they picked city cos of the marketing tool that is to overhaul united and the strength of a patient fan base that will support the project no matter what.

 

[SWP's back]

The introduction of the Cup Scheme has been a cute move by City this season.

Put this to co-inside with a good cup run and they'll be laughing next season as every man and his dog will be jumping on the band wagon.

it wasn't introduced this season though, this misnomer has been peddled lots on here recently

i've been in the cup scheme for three years and it has been going even longer than that
i didn't join for the points, i joined because it saved me £10 every time we had a cup home game, as i'm someone who goes to all home games
sometimes the booking fee was as much as my two youngest kids' tickets together so it made sense to join
the points are a bonus

^^^

This. It is annoying that it keeps getting spouted.

 

[squirtyflower]

I know what Tolmie is suggesting and I also know that he won't have a problem getting a ticket for Wembley.I was'nt having a pop at Tolmie,just making a general point.

City will never have the luxury of doing what United do as we simply don't have,and in my opinion never will have,as many fans.

The cup games at City are as cheap as League one prices,£15 and £20.My point is,and mainly to the local fans,if you can't be bothered joining the cup scheme at those sort of prices then don't moan if you can't get a wembley ticket.

If City started charging £1000 for seasoncards then the ground would be empty and they know this which is why it will never happen on a large scale.

The club don't currently have enough fans. Which is why they are changing their "target market" as it were, to people with more disposable income. Hence the family offers, the forced Cup scheme etc. This is what I mean about pushing demand beyond what they can supply, so they can raise their prices, because they'll have that market.

Look what they did in the North Stand, and now the second tier price change. Do you believe this is the end of the game? Of course not. This is just the beginning. They are slowly building up a fanbase of richer clients, so they can dump the paupers.

And as for your comment about the cup scheme, I've been to every home cup game this year. Couldn't afford to sign up though, as I couldn't guarantee that I'd have the money in my account for every game. Does that mean I deserve to go to the final less than somebody who could?

If you back their plans now, don't complain in 5 years when you get priced out.

when was this introduced, i must have missed it?<br /><br />-- Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:18 pm --<br /><br />

it wasn't introduced this season though, this misnomer has been peddled lots on here recently

i've been in the cup scheme for three years and it has been going even longer than that
i didn't join for the points, i joined because it saved me £10 every time we had a cup home game, as i'm someone who goes to all home games
sometimes the booking fee was as much as my two youngest kids' tickets together so it made sense to join
the points are a bonus

^^^

This. It is annoying that it keeps getting spouted.

i think it's being spouted because these people didn't even know it existed until the semi-final ticket details were announced, and then it became a problem

 

[dw7]

The introduction of the Cup Scheme has been a cute move by City this season.

Put this to co-inside with a good cup run and they'll be laughing next season as every man and his dog will be jumping on the band wagon.

The cup scheme is around years

 

[jay_mcfc]

Do you trust the clubs management not to do it?

I don't.

The owner (singular, we only have one) pays money and watches the games. He's got bigger plans for the brand, exempt from football. It's the other hangers on that are gonna change the fan base.

I really can't see this happening. It would take what the Glazers did at United, chew it up and shit it out ten times worse. It is a horrible way of running a football club and I hope there are enough football people at the club to ensure that never happens. Unfortunately it is the lack of football people making the decisions that I don't like.

If this kind of thing was being discussed at another club we'd be up in arms at such a ludicrous suggestion.

I do think Tolmie is right about the cup scheme though, this is going to get bigger and bigger over the years until sooner or later those that aren't on it will not get a ticket to the big games. I just hope our owners know what they are doing because with or without success our fan base can never match Uniteds.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

The 'nectar' points system would be an absolute disgrace. Loyalty supporting your team is not about buying a pint or a sausage.

It would take away freedom of choice and in a democratic society it should never be accepted.

People have varying definition of loyalty, I suppose.

There is a slight contradiction, as part of the argument here is that freedom of choice is now slowly been chipped away.

But a season ticket, buy into the cup direct scheme, or you are fooked.

I think the Nectar points would be a great idea, as the ability to afford a season-ticket should not define you as loyal above those who can't.

Why can't average Joe attempt to bump up their loyalty kudos by putting in money they do have to buy beer and food on the premises?

I would extend it to points for using the Metrolink to the stadium. Investing not only in City but in Manchester.

Season ticket holders already get 20 per cent discount for purchases in the store.

The reverse is easily implentable. A guy who can't lay his hands of £500, might have £50 burning a hole in his pocket at any one game.

Spend it on City if that is their want and should be rewarded.

 

[Numptyed]

The thing you are all forgetting is that the Glazers force the rags to the cup games as part of your ST, every cup was in it, CL, FA, EPL and until last year the CC as well. On the day the group games are announced they take all 3 games out of your account, even if they are months away, the further they progress in competitions the higher the prices go.
Trust me our owners are nothing like the Glazers.
I do understand the concern regarding the CDS buyers jumping the Q for semi tickets but look at the criteria for final tickets, loyalty points come first!
Please let's moan about stuff when it happens an not when posters (and I know TH is well informed) guess things are going that way.

 

[Bluemoon115]

The club don't currently have enough fans. Which is why they are changing their "target market" as it were, to people with more disposable income. Hence the family offers, the forced Cup scheme etc. This is what I mean about pushing demand beyond what they can supply, so they can raise their prices, because they'll have that market.

Look what they did in the North Stand, and now the second tier price change. Do you believe this is the end of the game? Of course not. This is just the beginning. They are slowly building up a fanbase of richer clients, so they can dump the paupers.

And as for your comment about the cup scheme, I've been to every home cup game this year. Couldn't afford to sign up though, as I couldn't guarantee that I'd have the money in my account for every game. Does that mean I deserve to go to the final less than somebody who could?

If you back their plans now, don't complain in 5 years when you get priced out.

when was this introduced, i must have missed it?

All right then, a cup scheme with a ransom note.

Care to comment on any of the other points raised, as opposed to one inaccuracy?

 

[DSonBlue]

The 'nectar' points system would be an absolute disgrace. Loyalty supporting your team is not about buying a pint or a sausage.

It would take away freedom of choice and in a democratic society it should never be accepted.

PMSL! :O)

 

[moomba]

And as for your comment about the cup scheme, I've been to every home cup game this year. Couldn't afford to sign up though, as I couldn't guarantee that I'd have the money in my account for every game. Does that mean I deserve to go to the final less than somebody who could?

I don't think membership of cup direct means that anyone deserves a ticket over anyone else, but there seems to be this thinking that going to every home game is "as good" for the club as being a member of the scheme.

It's not IMO, and people who enrol in the scheme do deserve some sort of reward for signing up. For me, that reward should only go as far as bonus loyalty points, jumping in the queue ahead of people with more points shouldn't be allowed (even though I took advantage for the semi).