bluebean said:BillyShears said:What does that mean mate?
Regarding Alves - can't see it happening now or in the summer. His age, the wages he would demand, the transfer fee Barca would want - it would all be in direct conflict with what the club have been saying about reigning in transfer spending, signing young players, not paying over the odds etc...
It means players need to leave, ade or swp, to make room for him in 25 man squad
BillyShears said:bluebean said:It means players need to leave, ade or swp, to make room for him in 25 man squad
Well to be honest, my opinion is that ridding ourselves of Ade and Swp and then adding Alves would be such supreme folly that the club would never ever do that...
We already have too many full backs in the squad...whilst we don't have enough out and out wingers (esp if SWP goes). Before anyone says "Alves can play as a winger" - I know he can - but he's not going to be bought to play there which is why IMO he won't be bought.
BillyShears said:We already have too many full backs in the squad...whilst we don't have enough out and out wingers (esp if SWP goes). Before anyone says "Alves can play as a winger" - I know he can - but he's not going to be bought to play there which is why IMO he won't be bought.
tolmie's hairdoo said:BillyShears said:What does that mean mate?
Regarding Alves - can't see it happening now or in the summer. His age, the wages he would demand, the transfer fee Barca would want - it would all be in direct conflict with what the club have been saying about reigning in transfer spending, signing young players, not paying over the odds etc...
Hi mate, I agree entirely with regards your take on Alves.
I'm led to believe we will only now move in the market if we can move out Ade and Shaun.
We are demanding cast-iron guarantees from interested clubs, with regards to outright purchases, before sanctioning any loans.
This has been problematic.
It is the first example to me City are indeed taking these financial fair play rules very seriously indeed.
It's not a question of monies being available, all about cash flow and what we want to show in the summer books.
Outgoing players also know this and are in very strong positions.
My own take is both these players will get the moves, then it really is a case (sounds ridiculous, but in a unique position) seeing what potentially sticks to the wall with regards identified targets.
Alves was certainly one in the summer, most likely our owners' desire, albeit Mancini is hardly going to turn his nose up.
He is also well accustomed in Italy to presidents who suggest players.
Personally, would rather see us go and get Chris Samba and Sneijder!!
bluebean said:BillyShears said:What does that mean mate?
Regarding Alves - can't see it happening now or in the summer. His age, the wages he would demand, the transfer fee Barca would want - it would all be in direct conflict with what the club have been saying about reigning in transfer spending, signing young players, not paying over the odds etc...
It means players need to leave, ade or swp, to make room for him in 25 man squad
BillyShears said:tolmie's hairdoo said:Hi mate, I agree entirely with regards your take on Alves.
I'm led to believe we will only now move in the market if we can move out Ade and Shaun.
We are demanding cast-iron guarantees from interested clubs, with regards to outright purchases, before sanctioning any loans.
This has been problematic.
It is the first example to me City are indeed taking these financial fair play rules very seriously indeed.
It's not a question of monies being available, all about cash flow and what we want to show in the summer books.
Outgoing players also know this and are in very strong positions.
My own take is both these players will get the moves, then it really is a case (sounds ridiculous, but in a unique position) seeing what potentially sticks to the wall with regards identified targets.
Alves was certainly one in the summer, most likely our owners' desire, albeit Mancini is hardly going to turn his nose up.
He is also well accustomed in Italy to presidents who suggest players.
Personally, would rather see us go and get Chris Samba and Sneijder!!
Samba and Sneijder hey...for me they would both fall into the same category as Alves (over priced, too high wage demands etc).
The way I see the squad being shaped now is this - if SWP and Ade go, we'll move on a midfield player as we need options beyond AJ and Silva (I'm not counting Balo because his knee seems potentially problematic already). For me it would be someone like the kid at Southampton, ie. a young player with heaps of potential but not someone who would automatically demand a starting place. Possibly Henderson due to his versatility.
I think we'll wait until the summer for the back 4 - but I expect we'll go after Santon and an established top top drawer centre half...because that's probably the one place we could do with class AND experience...
tolmie's hairdoo said:bluebean said:It means players need to leave, ade or swp, to make room for him in 25 man squad
Wrong mate. To make room for absolutely ANYONE
The rollercoaster multiple buys are a thing of the past.