City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

[the blue panther]

Needs a space between each one mate. Just makes it easier to read (for me and I know a few others have mentioned it on other people’s posts).

Fuckin' 'ell - I bet you're a scream at the literary luncheon.

 

[wolviedinho]

With the sheer irony being, that were not the club that need their spending curbed.

You could argue that the team with the highest level of debt, shouldn't also have the largest net spend to go alongside it.

United have been able to 'spend the money they're generating' and yet that money is somehow different to the money we've got from winning 7 of the last 8 league titles, as well as numerous domestic cups and the champions league.

Mad that clubs like West Ham think that City are the problem.

Everyone knew their place before city came along. City showed clubs that went below the radar and lost years competing due to bad ownership that one day you could rise again and achieve success. The league is all about the status quo.

1-4 Rags,Liverpool, arse, chavs/spurs

The rest make up mid table and relegation and sell their best players season after season. Now fans ask why do we have to sell? We want to compete and that means spending money they don’t want to spend.

We shook the foundations and as a result became the nemesis of any club who knew their place and didn’t need to worry about competing as long as the illusion of fair competition could be peddled to the mass football brain dead horde.

West ham know their place. As do Brighton, wolves, Brentford et al.

Mansour, Khaldoon, Txiki,Soriano and the main man Pep is what they were not prepared for. We gave the latter a blank canvas and his did the rest.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Could you imagine if this happened in any other businesses in this country there would be not many companies posting any profits

I think the Government are holding a big conference this week aimed at getting more foreign investment into the Country, because we as a Country need the investment.

Yet the PL are doing the absolute opposite in turning foreign investment into the Country down. All this at the behest of a few disingenuous cunts, with a twisted, self- serving view on how the PL should be run.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Fuck me they got a belting deal compared to ours

It doesn't sound like fair market value though, perhaps it needs looking into :)

 

[Dribble]

Everyone knew their place before city came along. City showed clubs that went below the radar and lost years competing due to bad ownership that one day you could rise again and achieve success. The league is all about the status quo.

1-4 Rags,Liverpool, arse, chavs/spurs

The rest make up mid table and relegation and sell their best players season after season. Now fans ask why do we have to sell? We want to compete and that means spending money they don’t want to spend.

We shook the foundations and as a result became the nemesis of any club who knew their place and didn’t need to worry about competing as long as the illusion of fair competition could be peddled to the mass football brain dead horde.

West ham know their place. As do Brighton, wolves, Brentford et al.

Mansour, Khaldoon, Txiki,Soriano and the main man Pep is what they were not prepared for. We gave the latter a blank canvas and his did the rest.

Surely fans of other clubs can see this?

The tribal nature of football astounds me. HOWEVER, yesterday I rewound to 2006 & City going nowhere fast under Pearce, & considered if what was happening to City now was happening to the Rags then, how would I have reacted?

I'd know FFP, PSR & APT were bollocks, but because it was hampering ManUre, I probably wouldn't give a shit & be all for it.

A few of us rounded on the Geordie who posted over the weekend, but if we were one of the mid-table - relegation fodder also rans, would we be so understanding of a successful club under sustained UEFA & PL attack?

Many of us wouldn't be if we're being honest...

 

[BerkshireBlue]

There are 13 clubs in the premier league with shareholder loans. Everton £451m, Brighton £373m, Arsenal £259m, Chelsea, Liverpool, Leicester, Bournemouth, Wolves, Brentford, Crystal Palace, Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa and Fulham.

The APT rules were declared unlawful as they did not include shareholder loans, which we all now know was by design when drafting the rules.

If, going forward, APT are to be part of the Premier league rules then shareholder loans is the one and only ruling that MUST form part of the APT legislation otherwise they will once again be ruled unlawful.

To that end, how many of the aforementioned clubs will vote for APT to be part of the the Premier League rule book knowing that they will have to include interest payments on shareholder loans as part of their PSR calculations.

Associated Party Transactions as an entity is no longer an option for the Premier League given that 14 of the 20 members have to vote in favour and in my opinion the cartel clubs will have to come up with something a little more intelligent than the previous APT rules which have been shown to be targeted towards the Gulf owners.

I’m surprised the media were so quick to support the Premier League’s stance that City were successful in a couple of minor points and that the rules would be reinstated quickly with a couple of tweaks.

Actually after all the shit that the media have thrown at us over the past decade I am not surprised they are not willing to see what’s in front of their faces.

The likes of Panja, Delaney etc are going to struggle to resurrect their careers when the truth eventually comes out. Cunts!

nice work, this is my thinking about it as well. There's just no way any legal rules are getting voted in which means no APT rules at all.

 

[wolviedinho]

Surely fans of other clubs can see this?

The tribal nature of football astounds me. HOWEVER, yesterday I rewound to 2006 & City going nowhere fast under Pearce, & if what was happening to City now was happening to the Rags then, how would I have reacted?

I'd know FFP, PSR & APT were bollocks, but because it was hampering ManUre, I probably wouldn't give a shit & be all for it.

A few of us rounded on the Geordie who posted over the weekend, but if we were one of the mid-table - relegation fodder also rans, would we be so understanding of a successful club under sustained UEFA & PL attack?

Many of us wouldn't be if we're being honest...

Football tribalism. Fans either don’t care as you said or are happy being lied to. We see it every day on the news. Football is no different to any other industry well maybe it is different in that we all love our clubs. So that emotional pull can lead to easy manipulation.

City have ruined people’s lives by winning. That type of grudge could last forever. Especially if they have been told by the media and their own clubs that we ruined their lives by cheating then you see the emotionally charged reaction.

 

[Dribble]

Football tribalism. Fans either don’t care as you said or are happy being lied to. We see it every day on the news. Football is no different to any other industry well maybe it is different in that we all love our clubs. So that emotional pull can lead to easy manipulation.

City have ruined people’s lives by winning. That type of grudge could last forever. Especially if they have been told by the media and their own clubs that we ruined their lives by cheating then you see the emotionally charged reaction.

We tried to be respectful & gentlemanly about our ambitions, but it seems we're damned if we do & damned if we don't, so fuck the lot of em!

 

[Luddite_Blue]

The PL forget and remember whatever they are told to forget or remember.

 

[halfcenturyup]

There not saying you have to alter the loans just alter how they are accounted for for PSR not even the normal accounts and I don’t see how it negatively affects the lender to get interest they would not have got they are not forcing anyone to take any loans

The current APT rules require contracts to be changed to fmv before they are accepted by the PL. It's not a simple correction for PSR purposes. That is the whole point of an ex-ante assessment. I'm amazed you don't know that after 18 months of reading this thread.

And there are perfectly good business reasons why a loan may be interest free or low interest, or not have fixed repayment dates, or not be repayable at all. Who are the PL to tell an owner's directors what sort of loan to make available? Or a sponsor's directors how much their sponsorship should be in their contract?