I've held off saying anything on the whole 'Jordan now good, Stefan now bad' debate, till I have had a chance to hear the chat for myself. While I do not agree with Stefan's 'precis' based purely on my reading both the statements issued, how anyone can go on to think Jordan has suddenly found some level of balance, and Stefan has lost his, properly blows my mind. One is still full of innuendo and not so concealed digs at City, the other deals with facts and not tribal convictions. Listened to it and every single thing Jordan said made me cringe.