City Ownership

Superb argument Andy; they can treat people like that because it is their culture. I wonder what you reaction would be if it was the type of person you work with and I used the "culture" excuse.

"Well, it's just Western culture to take the piss, who are we to preach that it is wrong?"

Would you accept that as an acceptable response from me, or would you tell me that I was full of shit?
 
We're owned by ADUG which is a private equity company of Sheikh Mansour. It was initially thought that Abu Dhabi United Group is a part of Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, a sovereign wealth fund owned by Abu Dhabi. But Abu Dhabi United Group had denied connection to the government of Abu Dhabi.

We are 100% owned by Sheikh Mansour and his wealth comes from the Royal Family, that's the only main connection as far as I'm concerned.
 
Damocles said:
Something jumped out at me immediately last night, and I must admit that I was confused by it.

Mancini, on the pitch, said "I would like to give credit to the Royal Family of Abu Dhabi; Sheikh Mansour, Sheikh Mohammed and Khaldoon Al-Mubarak..."

Now, Man City have always maintained that they are 100% owned by Sheikh Mansour, and NOT through ADIA or any other subsidiary of the Abu Dhabi Royal Family. This is important for several reasons; firstly, it would mean that we are essentially owned by the government of another country and secondly, it would mean that we are directly funded by "oil money".
I'll come to the oil money thing later, but I read something on the OS that I've quoted here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2011/May/Roberto-Mancini-says-this-was-for-the-fans" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... r-the-fans</a>

"All the credit for what we have achieved this season has to go to the players," said Roberto, "who worked so hard for us to win what we did. But I also want to give credit to the Royal Family of Abu Dhabi, Sheikh Mansour and our chairman, Khaldoon al Mubarak. But what this team has done is dedicated to our fans, who have suffered for so long but can now start to dream about a better future."

That isn't what he said. He thanked Sheikh Mohammed as well as part of the ownership team.

Sheikh Mohammed is the Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi and Deputy Commander of their military. A few weeks ago, he was caught building his own mercenary army using companies charged with human rights abuses. Now, he has been called "the defacto ruler of Abu Dhabi and the UAE", and he's almost certainly the next President. The human rights abuses that occur there (from human trafficking, to confiscating passports, to creating a slave class, to 'sketchy' employment conditions, disallowing unions, sexual abuse of female workers, etc, etc) fall directly at his door. Under pressure from Western leaders about the Human Trafficking, he made a 55m donation to the UN to help fight the issue. That's about £10m, or Tevez's wages last year.

I was never worried about this type of thing when Sheikh Mansour was seen as the 100% owner of City. Although his wealth did come from oil originally, he's made billions in smart business moves. He was a personal owner using his personal wealth, and whilst he certainly does have power in Abu Dhabi, he isn't the guy in charge so these abuses cannot be laid at his door.

However, if we are owned by more than Sheikh Mansour, and he is a figurehead for our ownership as was suggested earlier, who exactly owns ADUG? Is Sheikh Mansour the 100% owner or are there other investors? Why does it say on the OS that Mansour 100% owns the club, when we have our manager thanking a completely different guy as part of our "owners"? Why was this edited out of the comment on the OS?

I would quite like to know if we are owned by a human rights abuser again or not.

do us ALL a favour pal.. stick your fingers in your ears..

DO WE GIVE A FUCK NO

IS IT ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU NO

Can YOU do anything about it without pissing off our OWNERS NO

do you enjoy thinking you have found a scoop that can help heap shit on a club your suppose to support YES

so for the fans who dont give a fuck ..shut up..with your crap
 
Jackson-ctid said:
We're owned by ADUG which is a private equity company of Sheikh Mansour. It was initially thought that Abu Dhabi United Group is a part of Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, a sovereign wealth fund owned by Abu Dhabi. But Abu Dhabi United Group had denied connection to the government of Abu Dhabi.

We are 100% owned by Sheikh Mansour and his wealth comes from the Royal Family, that's the only main connection as far as I'm concerned.

This is my point. Everybody who seems to know what is going on at the higher end thinks this is a project ran by the Abu Dhabi Royal Family, which is essentially the Abu Dhabi Governement.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Chris in London said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Brilliant post Chris, and I'm happy to take that as the reason behind the comment. Unusual it was missed from the website quote though.

One little tip....noone calls it the "EPL"...;-)

I suspect it was edited out of the OS to avoid the sort of reaction this thread has generated.

BTW - "EPL" = 3 characters; "Premier League" = 13 characters.

After a post that long, you are suggesting I should have made it even longer?

;-)

It's about credibility, Chris ;-)

I'm surprised you didn't pull him up for suggesting we 'enjoy the ride' ;-)
 
Longsight-memories said:
do us ALL a favour pal.. stick your fingers in your ears..

DO WE GIVE A FUCK NO

IS IT ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU NO

Can YOU do anything about it without pissing off our OWNERS NO

do you enjoy thinking you have found a scoop that can help heap shit on a club your suppose to support YES

so for the fans who dont give a fuck ..shut up..with your crap

Bellend, I'm sure you were all behind Frank dragging the name of our great club through the mud too as he was a bit rich too. Some things are more important than a bit of cash.

Also, it's very much "something to do with me" if some despotic leader owns MY club again, yes.
 
Longsight-memories said:
Damocles said:
Something jumped out at me immediately last night, and I must admit that I was confused by it.

Mancini, on the pitch, said "I would like to give credit to the Royal Family of Abu Dhabi; Sheikh Mansour, Sheikh Mohammed and Khaldoon Al-Mubarak..."

Now, Man City have always maintained that they are 100% owned by Sheikh Mansour, and NOT through ADIA or any other subsidiary of the Abu Dhabi Royal Family. This is important for several reasons; firstly, it would mean that we are essentially owned by the government of another country and secondly, it would mean that we are directly funded by "oil money".
I'll come to the oil money thing later, but I read something on the OS that I've quoted here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2011/May/Roberto-Mancini-says-this-was-for-the-fans" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... r-the-fans</a>

"All the credit for what we have achieved this season has to go to the players," said Roberto, "who worked so hard for us to win what we did. But I also want to give credit to the Royal Family of Abu Dhabi, Sheikh Mansour and our chairman, Khaldoon al Mubarak. But what this team has done is dedicated to our fans, who have suffered for so long but can now start to dream about a better future."

That isn't what he said. He thanked Sheikh Mohammed as well as part of the ownership team.

Sheikh Mohammed is the Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi and Deputy Commander of their military. A few weeks ago, he was caught building his own mercenary army using companies charged with human rights abuses. Now, he has been called "the defacto ruler of Abu Dhabi and the UAE", and he's almost certainly the next President. The human rights abuses that occur there (from human trafficking, to confiscating passports, to creating a slave class, to 'sketchy' employment conditions, disallowing unions, sexual abuse of female workers, etc, etc) fall directly at his door. Under pressure from Western leaders about the Human Trafficking, he made a 55m donation to the UN to help fight the issue. That's about £10m, or Tevez's wages last year.

I was never worried about this type of thing when Sheikh Mansour was seen as the 100% owner of City. Although his wealth did come from oil originally, he's made billions in smart business moves. He was a personal owner using his personal wealth, and whilst he certainly does have power in Abu Dhabi, he isn't the guy in charge so these abuses cannot be laid at his door.

However, if we are owned by more than Sheikh Mansour, and he is a figurehead for our ownership as was suggested earlier, who exactly owns ADUG? Is Sheikh Mansour the 100% owner or are there other investors? Why does it say on the OS that Mansour 100% owns the club, when we have our manager thanking a completely different guy as part of our "owners"? Why was this edited out of the comment on the OS?

I would quite like to know if we are owned by a human rights abuser again or not.

do us ALL a favour pal.. stick your fingers in your ears..

DO WE GIVE A FUCK NO

IS IT ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU NO

Can YOU do anything about it without pissing off our OWNERS NO

do you enjoy thinking you have found a scoop that can help heap shit on a club your suppose to support YES

so for the fans who dont give a fuck ..shut up..with your crap

seconded....
 
I'll have your loyalty points then please Damocles ;-)

I too noticed he thanked Sheikh Mohamed. Could refer to anybody theoretically. We don't know if he meant THE Sheikh Mohamed, as it were, one of the Makhtoums (apologies on the spelling) or indeed if it was a genuine mistake by an Italian reading a pre-prepared statement in his second language?

The bottom line is we are all in some way complicit in human rights abuse, from the govenrments we elect to the companies we buy our clothes from, I could go on but won't.

Suggest we save the knee jerks.
 
why on earth can't we enjoy the fucking moment
without killjoys comming on here and trying
to spoil our long over waited success, get a bloody
grip of yourselves, or just go away.
ffffffffffffffsssssssssss
 

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