City Ownership

Damocles said:
fbloke said:
I find it worrying that people who have access to the internet, and therefore all manner of information still equate Abu Dhabi and its small population with the broader 'Arab' world.

There are some on here who should know better than attempt to 'create' on a thread such as this.

Indeed, UAE's and Abu Dhabi's human rights problems are their own distinct problem. However, burying your head in the sand does nothing.

The problems that AD faces (and lets not forget that its of less interest to us what the UAE gets up to and yes I don understand the relationship between the two) is more to do with the non-native population, economic migrants if you will.

Italians sink boats full of North African's rather than let them land.

The French repatriate gyspies and ban the burkha

Germans have a rather long history (modern) of hostels being burnt to the ground and neo-nazis murdering imigrants.

I could of course go on but I think it is also important to note that the wonderful EU has many problems, some of which are worse than the issues facing AD.

As an interesting side note the Schengen Agreement is close to being binned because of issues with them damn foreigners. And the UK deliberately and decisively did not sign up to it.

Does that make all of us bad people?

Dam' my head is nowhere near the sand and I happen to be well enough read to understand these things a little better than some.

One thing you should know of course is no country is ever guilt free but their are far bigger fish to fry than AD.

IMHO.
 
Blue Fill said:
Sheik Mohammed has met with President Sarkosy, the Queen and Prince Phillip and Hilary Clinton over the last three years. If he is good enough for them then I seriously doubt the MCFC would feel the need to hide the fact that he has a connection with us.

My own suspicion is that Mancini meant to thank the Prophet not the Sheik and it was a slip of the tongue.

why?.
 
Shouldn't this thread be moved to classics now.

Manager thanks owner, chairman of the board and chairman in that order and we have a conspiracy theory about global human rights abuse!

It's going to be a long off season.
 
Bigga said:
Having had time to reflect on this thread I'm, now, of the conclusion that City fans are truly of a unique disposition. I cannot think of another forum that scrutinises itself and club owner/s for every single ethical degree.

I find it amazing, in many ways.

Aha, the old "only city fans would do this / only on bluemoon" claptrap.

PMSL
 
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Shami Chakrabarti would like to know more.

FFS! Only at City could somebody turn all the positives into a negative.

PS. Liberty are looking for new members. Feel free.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Surely the most notable part of this issue is the fact that the club have done a glasnost on it and edited the content of his speech.

Has Mancini had another "six months and three years" style foot-in-mouth moment? I've been telling you all he's not very bright since he started...

Eh? Do you know what Glasnost means?
 
Gelsons Dad said:
Shouldn't this thread be moved to classics now.

Manager thanks owner, chairman of the board and chairman in that order and we have a conspiracy theory about global human rights abuse!

It's going to be a long off season.

Sheikh Mohammed isn't on the board of directors. You've done that lovely thing where every Arab name looks the same.

fbloke said:
The problems that AD faces (and lets not forget that its of less interest to us what the UAE gets up to and yes I don understand the relationship between the two) is more to do with the non-native population, economic migrants if you will.

Italians sink boats full of North African's rather than let them land.

The French repatriate gyspies and ban the burkha

Germans have a rather long history (modern) of hostels being burnt to the ground and neo-nazis murdering imigrants.

I could of course go on but I think it is also important to note that the wonderful EU has many problems, some of which are worse than the issues facing AD.

As an interesting side note the Schengen Agreement is close to being binned because of issues with them damn foreigners. And the UK deliberately and decisively did not sign up to it.

Does that make all of us bad people?

Dam' my head is nowhere near the sand and I happen to be well enough read to understand these things a little better than some.

One thing you should know of course is no country is ever guilt free but their are far bigger fish to fry than AD.

IMHO.

Anyway, fbloke, you should go and tell Ahmed Mansoor that AD's problems are based on migrant workers. Some nice light reading for you:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/may/18/sex-and-the-city-2-abu-dhabi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -abu-dhabi</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.hrw.org/middle-eastn-africa/united-arab-emirates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.hrw.org/middle-eastn-africa/ ... b-emirates</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=384&key=25&parent=2&report=56" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cf ... &report=56</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/uae" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/uae</a>
 
Damocles said:
Gelsons Dad said:
Shouldn't this thread be moved to classics now.

Manager thanks owner, chairman of the board and chairman in that order and we have a conspiracy theory about global human rights abuse!

It's going to be a long off season.

Sheikh Mohammed isn't on the board of directors. You've done that lovely thing where every Arab name looks the same.

fbloke said:
The problems that AD faces (and lets not forget that its of less interest to us what the UAE gets up to and yes I don understand the relationship between the two) is more to do with the non-native population, economic migrants if you will.

Italians sink boats full of North African's rather than let them land.

The French repatriate gyspies and ban the burkha

Germans have a rather long history (modern) of hostels being burnt to the ground and neo-nazis murdering imigrants.

I could of course go on but I think it is also important to note that the wonderful EU has many problems, some of which are worse than the issues facing AD.

As an interesting side note the Schengen Agreement is close to being binned because of issues with them damn foreigners. And the UK deliberately and decisively did not sign up to it.

Does that make all of us bad people?

Dam' my head is nowhere near the sand and I happen to be well enough read to understand these things a little better than some.

One thing you should know of course is no country is ever guilt free but their are far bigger fish to fry than AD.

IMHO.

Anyway, fbloke, you should go and tell Ahmed Mansoor that AD's problems are based on migrant workers. Some nice light reading for you:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/may/18/sex-and-the-city-2-abu-dhabi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -abu-dhabi</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.hrw.org/middle-eastn-africa/united-arab-emirates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.hrw.org/middle-eastn-africa/ ... b-emirates</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=384&key=25&parent=2&report=56" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cf ... &report=56</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/uae" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/uae</a>

As I said no country is free of guilt.

And I always worry when we append 'western' values to countries that have very different histories, values and customs.

I dont want to sound as if I agree with how things are done but it is also not for us, westerners to preach to others is it?
 

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