City Square open for testing

cleavers said:
pbibs said:
Do you really believe there are no "no-mark" dick heads amongst our support. Dont be so holy. Do you really think there are no wankers in the 47000 that turn up. Dont be silly. There are plenty of wankers in the world but they are all "fellow human beings" ffs.

No, and no, but the discussion was about "City Square", not "pissed up no marks", something which if I remember you introduced into the discussion about pricing when you explained you didn't want people who'd had a few pints in "City Square".


By the way, some of your subsequent replies quoting other posters posts, that are nothing to do with this forum, let alone this discussion, are winning you no friends, and quite frankly I'd be embarrased by them even if I'd a few drinks myself.

I do not want to "win" friends. This thread was started as a congratulatory thread about what the club is trying to do for the fans. It was then hijacked by people venting their spleens about having to pay 50, 60, 70 or 80p a pint more than they do at the pubs that they have been enjoying going to for the last 3 or 4 years. I admit, I may have been over zealous , and a little silly, in my counter arguments. However, I am weary with the negative shit in the press frm day to day and dont then want to come on here and read negative shit about, what i perceive, to be something positive that the club are doing.

-- Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:23 am --

scottyboi said:
Jonnos left peg said:
those pissed up 'no marks' as u call them are more likely these days to stop people getting a kickin than actually doing the kickin, I've been stuck with a bunch of them at various places when its gone 'tits up' and i'd rather have them around me than a table full of suits eating prawn sandwiches.

Exactly this!!

-- Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:55 am --

pbibs said:
scottyboi Post subject: Re: The brutal truth about this top 4 bollocks Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:45 pm


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After reading some of the threads today, and some of the wankers Ive met in the ground. I hate alot of our fans haha




Think this was you as well.

Ive actually know you to be a decent poster, fuck knows what's gone on in you head tonight. But when you read back tomorrow you will be embarrassed.And yes I do hate alot of our fans the negativity towards our manager's/player's knocks me sick sometimes. Held us back for years.


I wont be embarrassed tomorrow, but why o why has this thread turned from saying well done to City into slagging the club off on beer prices. I also apologise about before but I was very frustrated.<br /><br />-- Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:26 am --<br /><br />
nashark said:
pbibs said:
Do you really believe there are no "no-mark" dick heads amongst our support. Dont be so holy. Do you really think there are no wankers in the 47000 that turn up. Dont be silly. There are plenty of wankers in the world but they are all "fellow human beings" ffs.

What the fuck are you on about?

You are unfathomably daft. If you were to take your head out of your arse for a second, you might be able to see why the club, as generous as the city square project might be, have nonetheless failed to connect with a large majority of the club's lifeblood on this whole pricing issue.


So the club can only connect with fans by giving them cheap beer. What sort of connection is that ? Please elaborate.
 
It seems like most of the people complaining about prices are forgetting the BIGGEST problem City have.

Mary D's might be cheaper for a pint, but they are open 7 days. City is open once a week at best. Same for food compared for a restaurant. Buying in bulk is just not feasible for the most part.
 
Forget the prices, the staff or even the punters.

Average attendance last season = 45,513
Capacity at Mary D's and surrounding pubs approx = 5k (a generous guess)
That leaves around 40,000 matchday punters (These are more likely the target customers)
Capacity at City Square = 5000

City know they will easily get a 1 in 10 walk through at City square pre match, possibly less when people go home after but they will still get a fair few letting traffic etc clear for the hour or so they are open.

No one HAS to change there current prematch activities, City are after the strollers and the fans that dont want to head into a local boozer, the square will be a success off the back of these people alone in my opinion.

Undoubtedly another good move by the club and another option I appreciate being given the CHOICE of.
 
Nixon_The_Bike_Thief said:
Forget the prices, the staff or even the punters.

Average attendance last season = 45,513
Capacity at Mary D's and surrounding pubs approx = 5k (a generous guess)
That leaves around 40,000 matchday punters (These are more likely the target customers)
Capacity at City Square = 5000

City know they will easily get a 1 in 10 walk through at City square pre match, possibly less when people go home after but they will still get a fair few letting traffic etc clear for the hour or so they are open.

No one HAS to change there current prematch activities, City are after the strollers and the fans that dont want to head into a local boozer, the square will be a success off the back of these people alone in my opinion.

Undoubtedly another good move by the club and another option I appreciate being given the CHOICE of.

Good post, bang on the money.
 
It would have been nice of course if the prices had been cheaper. I do think that it constitutes a bit of failing in my book; a missed opportunity. £3.00 a pint (all pints) with 4 for a £10.00 offer would have been the sweet spot I think. Food, I'll decide based on the quality of it whether it's acceptable pricing - will be giving that a try tonight. Service would be another nice thing. If the pints are flowing more freely by someone who speaks English as a first language. Again, I'll judge that tonight. Overall, though, this must be positive. It's another option. If you don't want to use it, there's no compulsion.

I feel like a heretic giving this opinion though because fook me there has been some childish argument going on in this thread and some seriously snobby talk about pricing out anyone who likes more than two pints at a match.
 
it's brand new, so naturally there will be things that will be improved and dealt with as the season goes on. Maybe if the demand is good City can negotiate their catering contracts to lower prices if the financial targets for the square are met, just a thought. Obviously there are probably plenty of young to middle aged men who want to go and drink and will do so at Mary D's, but there will be young families who will not find a pub environment suitable for their kids who may go here, people who see it as an easier option than finding a pub to meet at, or for teenagers who can't get served in a pub, or older fans who would find a pub environment very difficult and uncomfortable, so really I think City are trying to create an environment suitable for as many groups of fans as possible, and to be honest if the beer was cheap it would just turn into an outdoor pub, and I'm not having a go at the people who enjoy that environment, but that would I assume defeat the purpose of the project.
 
Munkey Boy said:
Does no one go out in town here? It's been well over £3 a pint for a while now. They'll do a fine trade.

I pay £2.80 for a pint of Strongbow in town. Nowerigan Blue do cheap drinks every monday I bet a weatherspoons is cheaper than our ground aswel.

If I want a different bottled cider its £3.60.
 
Originals said:
Munkey Boy said:
Does no one go out in town here? It's been well over £3 a pint for a while now. They'll do a fine trade.

I pay £2.80 for a pint of Strongbow in town. Nowerigan Blue do cheap drinks every monday I bet a weatherspoons is cheaper than our ground aswel.

If I want a different bottled cider its £3.60.
Fair enough, cider is a bit cheaper usually. But I've not paid less than £3.30 or so for a Heineken for a while now in town. Thats what it is in the Waldorf IIRC. And Wetherspoons is cheaper than everywhere, it's their business model.

If the square is well laid out with City stuff on the screens, I don't mind paying an extra 50p a pint for the build up. We'll see what it's like.
 
Did anyone else who went to the test event yesterday see the dick head rag that turned up?

Why the fook would you come to an event like this if you were a red? I'd rather eat frog shit than go to an event like that at the swamp.
 
[quote="pbibsIt was then hijacked by people venting their spleens about having to pay 50, 60, 70 or 80p a pint more than they do at the pubs that they have been enjoying going to for the last 3 or 4 years.[/quote]

Venting their spleens? All I can see is a few people who are suprised at the price because they thought the whole point would be to get people to the ground early and a good way of doing that would be to make the prices attractive. They're hardly frothing at the mouth with anger.

I'm sure the people running it know what they are doing. But I suspect they could have attracted far more customers by keeping the price of a pint under £3.
 
pbibs said:
Jonnos left peg said:
those pissed up 'no marks' as u call them are more likely these days to stop people getting a kickin than actually doing the kickin, I've been stuck with a bunch of them at various places when its gone 'tits up' and i'd rather have them around me than a table full of suits eating prawn sandwiches.

LMFAO. No wonder the decent people with the kids leave early.


I'm a decent person, I take my kids, I don't leave early or have a problem with what others drink. Over the last couple of seasons this 'Temperance Movement' has been creeping into the ground and it pisses me off. I've been taking my kids for a couple of years and have had a season ticket since being a kid myself. Whether it is liked or not, having a few pints before, and maybe after the game, is part of the culture of going to a match. Maybe some people should try taking their kids elsewhere than a football match if they have such an issue with people enjoying a pint or two. This dichotomy between people who drink (no marks) and people who take their kids (decent) people exists only in some peoples minds I believe.
ps post count is not a valid predictor of the validity of one's point or their inherent right to make it.
 
tonea2003 said:
wonder if they are rushing in some patio heaters, its not looking too good out there at the mo'.

Way back on something like page 5 of this thread, before it got hijacked, I reported that there appear to be some type of patio heater things on the stanchions. If they are patio heaters then I guess they may use them tonight.

If people don't want to use the City Square just don't use it. Simple as, there is no need to be knocking the club for trying to do something for the fans. Let's get behind them and see if we can make this work for goodness sake!!
 
I'm far from a tee-totaller, myself. I have absolutely no problem with anybody having a few bevvies before, during or after a game of football.
That said...
Some people don't carry their licquer as well as others. That's a fact of life.
Football games can attract a ( now mercifully, dwindling) thuggish element. That's another fact of life.
Now, imagine the uproar if City were selling beer at supermarket prices, outside the ground and there followed a riot inside the ground or even at Picadilly, after the game.
In fact, forget about there ever being trouble and imagine what sort of message the club would be accused of sending out if they were to be seen to tie binge drinking with sport (because that's what they'd be accused of, whether anybody ever got drunk or not).
Like I say, I've no bother at all with anyone drinking. Generally speaking an assh*le will be an assh*le whether he's drunk or not and those with common decency usually (!) behave when drunk. It's about the way you were reared to behave and nothing more.
Now, I'm off down the pub to cheer on the blue and next month, I'll be over for the Blackburn game to sup beer before the match at the City Square. F*ck the price! We haven't starved a winter yet and who knows, maybe the building society can take a joke when I tell them I spent their mortgage money on a portion of gravy!
 
Just to report that City Square was a great success.

I got there about 6pm and it was fairly full then, with everyone watching past games (mainly Derbies) on the big screens.. had a samosa (ridiculous at £3 so won't bother with one of them again) and a couple of pints and a sing-song.

The service was excellent, took no time at all to get served... There was a queue to get in from about 7 as it was full, and despite the shocking weather I was able to keep dry no problem... They kept interrupting the highlights to show stuff like the team arriving and got an interview with Joe Hart as they got off the bus. Also showed the team being announced and there was even a band playing with a short-skirted girl... What more do you want?

Went in again after the game for another beer and to watch the goals...

Brilliant.
 
mad4city said:
I'm far from a tee-totaller, myself. I have absolutely no problem with anybody having a few bevvies before, during or after a game of football.
That said...
Some people don't carry their licquer as well as others. That's a fact of life.
Football games can attract a ( now mercifully, dwindling) thuggish element. That's another fact of life.
Now, imagine the uproar if City were selling beer at supermarket prices, outside the ground and there followed a riot inside the ground or even at Picadilly, after the game.
In fact, forget about there ever being trouble and imagine what sort of message the club would be accused of sending out if they were to be seen to tie binge drinking with sport (because that's what they'd be accused of, whether anybody ever got drunk or not).
Like I say, I've no bother at all with anyone drinking. Generally speaking an assh*le will be an assh*le whether he's drunk or not and those with common decency usually (!) behave when drunk. It's about the way you were reared to behave and nothing more.
Now, I'm off down the pub to cheer on the blue and next month, I'll be over for the Blackburn game to sup beer before the match at the City Square. F*ck the price! We haven't starved a winter yet and who knows, maybe the building society can take a joke when I tell them I spent their mortgage money on a portion of gravy!

WTF are you on about
 
I liked City Square. Good atmosphere, service was lightning fast and could speak English. Still can't add up to save their lives though. Also, why were they charging (not that I'm complaining) £3.60 for Heineken when it was £3.90 on the screen?

The pen was a bit small, yes but that just adds to the atmosphere really.
 

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