City v Boro post match

[OB1]

It started with an extremely lucky deflection off Garcia in midfield that went straight to their man. He then puts a belting ball in and Clichy is completely flat footed.

Bad luck, a great cross and an individual mistake.

Shit happens and ive said, both full back positions are the absolute priority for this side next summer.

It really started when Garcia gave the ball away before that when he played a ball with the outside of his foot. I assume it was a pass but wasn't sure at the game and you cannot tell from the MotD clip.

I'll reiterate this is not about bashing Garcia, the poor lad should not have been on at that point, but the fact is he had three moments in the build up that were unsuccessful.

Clichy perhaps should have done better but he probably had an eye on Negredo, I think, in front of him whilst the goal scorer has an unobstructed run at the ball, which would give him an advantage over Clichy, flat footed or not. Whatever, Clichy needed some help and this was not just his failure.

 

[grim up north]

It really started when Garcia gave the ball away before that when he played a ball with the outside of his foot. I assume it was a pass but wasn't sure at the game and you cannot tell from the MotD clip.

I'll reiterate this is not about bashing Garcia, the poor lad should not have been on at that point, but the fact is he had three moments in the build up that were unsuccessful.

Clichy perhaps should have done better but he probably had an eye on Negredo, I think, in front of him whilst the goal scorer has an unobstructed run at the ball, which would give him an advantage over Clichy, flat footed or not. Whatever, Clichy needed some help and this was not just his failure.

Clichy looked behind saw De Hoon and still didn't jump that's all he needed to do not win the header but jump

 

[We're not really here]

It's not about bashing the kid but he simply has to stop the cross and he didn't do that.

 

[OB1]

See i dont get this. Stones and AK did absolutely nothing wrong for 90 mins imo. For 45 mins Boro didn't even have a kick of the ball.

Any game at 1-0 is never over, especially at this level and of course you always feel a goal might come and yesterday it did but it wasn't down to poor tactics imo as they had worked just fine for 91 mins, it was down yet again to a player switching off and thats where the focus should be.

Must confess I was wondering if we should bring Vinnie on near the end; not for Stones or Kola, who both had good games, but Kola could have gone into midfield, even Vinnie could do that, or we could have gone three / five at the back.

I thought Garcia for Navas was the wrong choice when made and still do.

 

[blueinsa]

Clichy looked behind saw De Hoon and still didn't jump that's all he needed to do not win the header but jump

Beat me to it mate.

Clichy did nothing, he didnt jump, he didnt get in the way of the player, he just did nothing.

 

[twosips]

Made a vlog at the game. If anyone wants to re-live the pain once again from the perspective of a fan sat next to the Boro fans then go for it! haha.

 

[grim up north]

Beat me to it mate.

Clichy did nothing, he didnt jump, he didnt get in the way of the player, he just did nothing.

To me looked shit scared of being clattered

 

[blueinsa]

Must confess I was wondering if we should bring Vinnie on near the end; not for Stones or Kola, who both had good games, but Kola could have gone into midfield, even Vinnie could do that, or we could have gone three / five at the back.

I thought Garcia for Navas was the wrong choice when made and still do.

Ive got no issue with any of that but im hearing if Navas stays on that goal is never scored.

Since when has Navas been the defensive rock on here we rely on? ((% of site traffic post game is about how shit he is yet suddenly, we concede a shit injury time equaliser and Pep is a clown because he brought off the one player who would have definitely, 100% have stopped that cross and goal?

Not having it mate.

Id love for Vinny to be featuring but its absolutely obvious he isnt right either physically 100% or mentally and there is no trust there that he wont break down again. You could argue why have him on the bench then and its a fair question but its one only Pep and Vinny could answer and i doubt we will ever get it.

We dominated the game and should have scored a hat full again. Im fucked off with our forwards not doing more and im fucked off in general that the full back positions that needed upgrading last year still hasnt been done and still costs us but all in all, we deserved to win the game yesterday, played really well apart form banging the goals in and a poor individual error imo cost the side yet again.

they have to stop, the errors that is and we have to score more and Pep himself said our efforts on both boxes needs to improve.

 

[Eaglechief]

I hope the gaps not too big by the time it does. Pressure is on at 'small pitch' Burnley now.

How the hell have we go to the stage where we're worried about not winning at Burnley? (I vaguely remember we once went there and won 6-0 under Mancini?), then under Pellegrini we lost to them 3-2 away and drew 2-2 at home. How pathetic is that?

It does suggest a mental weakness amongst our player's, they just don't like it up'em!

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Comparing Bell with Silva. That's the lack of knowledge/football intelligence I'm referring to.

The only comparison to make is about their quality. They are totally different players.

Take David's dick out of your mouth for a minute and don't insult my intelligence. Probably unlike you, I saw Bell play regularly and I know they're different players playing in a different era. Silva couldn't play a 40-yard pass from in front of his own box and arrive at the opposition box to finish off the same move like Bell could and Bell couldn't play the sort of passes that Silva can in tight spaces. But at the end of the day they're both midfield players who played in forward roles. The big difference is that Silva plays almost exclusively in that forward role whereas Bell was far more box-to-box. He did far more running than Silva does yet still scored twice as many goals. If Bell got the ball on the edge of the box and had a sight of goal, he'd have a crack. If Silva has the ball in a similar position, he bottles out and usually passes to someone in a worse position.

Silva reminds me very much of someone like Peter Barnes or Gary Owen. Both had skill to burn but both would regularly go missing when the going got tough. Whereas Asa Hartford was nowhere near as talented but always turned up. Players like Dennis Tueart & Carlos Tevez had the sort of ruthless, focused mindset that I don't see in many of our current squad. So I'm not singling him out.

But do you ever wonder why he never seems to get the recognition from his peers that others get - no PFA team of the year or Ballon D'Or nominations? Maybe they see the same thing as a few of us do.