City v Everton Post Match Thread

Bit late with this but I thought we looked a lot better when we moved to a 433. Aguero dropped to the left and Silva played in behind Negredo. We looked much more solid and retained possession more easily. We seemed to then revert back to 442 for the second half before changing again to 433.

Silva looked well up for it today and got away with a couple of tackles before eventually getting carded. Was his usual majestic self on the ball but was really snapping away at the Everton players.

I thought Fernandinho was awesome in the second half, Barkley and Lukaku were noticeably quiet because Dinho seemed to be everywhere sweeping up.

Negredo's energy up front is a revelation, even in the 90th minute at 3-1 he was still hassling defenders and looking to burst through their back line. Beast.

Loved the support for Hart and thought he had a solid game, will do him the world of good. Lescott was clearly at fault for the goal but he seemed to step up once Kompany went off. Nastasic is just class. Zabba had a few hairy moments early on but was otherwise fine and Kolsrov was a real threat going forward and solid defensively.

Milner never stopped running and his industry almost completely nullified the threat of Baines. An all round very good performance.
 
Tonight on motd we start with a team in the bottom half of the league verse the team at the bottom of the league !
Liniker's snide comments pissed me off, "what was the differance between the two sides, apart from all the decisions going against Everton" ! Funny last week it was "good to see" a lineman ignoring a clearly offside goal. Also same thing in the Liverpool/Palace game ie penalty like City's, and Ian Holloway saying " if that was a pen, well we should of had one" yet not a word about it back in the studio !
 
kenzie115 said:
Bit late with this but I thought we looked a lot better when we moved to a 433. Aguero dropped to the left and Silva played in behind Negredo. We looked much more solid and retained possession more easily. We seemed to then revert back to 442 for the second half before changing again to 433.

Silva looked well up for it today and got away with a couple of tackles before eventually getting carded. Was his usual majestic self on the ball but was really snapping away at the Everton players.

I thought Fernandinho was awesome in the second half, Barkley and Lukaku were noticeably quiet because Dinho seemed to be everywhere sweeping up.

Negredo's energy up front is a revelation, even in the 90th minute at 3-1 he was still hassling defenders and looking to burst through their back line. Beast.

Loved the support for Hart and thought he had a solid game, will do him the world of good. Lescott was clearly at fault for the goal but he seemed to step up once Kompany went off. Nastasic is just class. Zabba had a few hairy moments early on but was otherwise fine and Kolsrov was a real threat going forward and solid defensively.

Milner never stopped running and his industry almost completely nullified the threat of Baines. An all round very good performance.
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But, but, but, Fernandinho's shit and useless and lightweight and can't run and can't tackle and brings nothing to the team.....

Nice assessment kenzie and agree wholeheartedly.
 
the bbc five live was every bit as biased , it sounded like chris waddle co-commentating and he only decided city deserved to win the game with about 5 minutes to go , they blamed hart for the goal (along with lescott) .The motd commentary took the biscuit , ridiculous comments from steve wilson about hart and our performance , if we had won the game 6-2 or 7-2 everton couldnt have complained , we wasted so many very good chances , i think i will be writing a stiff e-mail to the bbc head of sport ,but in the meantime my mute button will be pressed into action in future.
 
kev20971 said:
Tonight on motd we start with a team in the bottom half of the league verse the team at the bottom of the league !
Liniker's snide comments pissed me off, "what was the differance between the two sides, apart from all the decisions going against Everton" ! Funny last week it was "good to see" a lineman ignoring a clearly offside goal. Also same thing in the Liverpool/Palace game ie penalty like City's, and Ian Holloway saying " if that was a pen, well we should of had one" yet not a word about it back in the studio !
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Farce having the rags on first, if they had lost there is no way in this world that would have happened, much more action and entertainment in our game. TBF Shearer was very complimentary towards us.<br /><br />-- Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:30 pm --<br /><br />
gmckennasell said:
the bbc five live was every bit as biased , it sounded like chris waddle co-commentating and he only decided city deserved to win the game with about 5 minutes to go , they blamed hart for the goal (along with lescott) .The motd commentary took the biscuit , ridiculous comments from steve wilson about hart and our performance , if we had won the game 6-2 or 7-2 everton couldnt have complained , we wasted so many very good chances , i think i will be writing a stiff e-mail to the bbc head of sport ,but in the meantime my mute button will be pressed into action in future.
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Agreed, that commentator was relishing Hart not keeping Lukaku's effort out, well bollocks to you you biased twunt.
 
Really enjoyed it. It was like having the old title winning City back. Pleased to see Lescott back in defence. Great to see Silva and Milner all over the pitch and with some great link up play. Silva was the difference in the way he popped up everywhere and sometimes at the same time. Much as we bang on about formations when you have Silva and to a lesser extent Milner here there and everywhere it all becomes a bit moot. I have a soft spot for Edin but Negrado is a must start alongside Sergio. Downside was Kompany and our defence still looks vulnerable oh and the officials were beyond useless but all in all a thoroughly enjoyable day.
 
kev20971 said:
Tonight on motd we start with a team in the bottom half of the league verse the team at the bottom of the league !
Liniker's snide comments pissed me off, "what was the differance between the two sides, apart from all the decisions going against Everton" ! Funny last week it was "good to see" a lineman ignoring a clearly offside goal. Also same thing in the Liverpool/Palace game ie penalty like City's, and Ian Holloway saying " if that was a pen, well we should of had one" yet not a word about it back in the studio !
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...and did you hear Lineker's little Freudian slip whilst discussing Un*t*d's win with Hodgson?
 
BobKowalski said:
Really enjoyed it. It was like having the old title winning City back. Pleased to see Lescott back in defence. Great to see Silva and Milner all over the pitch and with some great link up play. Silva was the difference in the way he popped up everywhere and sometimes at the same time. Much as we bang on about formations when you have Silva and to a lesser extent Milner here there and everywhere it all becomes a bit moot. I have a soft spot for Edin but Negrado is a must start alongside Sergio. Downside was Kompany and our defence still looks vulnerable oh and the officials were beyond useless but all in all a thoroughly enjoyable day.
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Silva and Milner play very well together. You would swear sometimes there were 2 Silvas on the pitch, he covers so much ground here, there and everywhere. The second half was a truly dominant display, and was enhanced further when Nasri came on.

As for the totally unjustified criticism of Fernandinho, I thought he had a great game. Don't forget when Yaya pushes forward, Fernandinho has to cover an awful lot of ground without a great deal of support. Overall I thought he played exceptionally well.

I notice that Ric and others are advocating 4-2-3-1 in the away games. If so a very tough call would have to be made re the one up front. For me it would have to be Alvaro. Playing away you need that junkyard dog mentality, and that's what he has in abundance.
 
MillionDollarDream said:
Fernandinho does all the little things, he's a more agile GazBaz. He may not fill up the stat sheet but he makes important tackles tracks back links a bit of play and stays out of attackers way. That's why if you are watching it on TV like me, you are wondering where he is unless you absolutely focus in on him. Yea he had some wayward passes but if he played a really good game today.
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I think he will be a better player than Gaz Baz eventually. But I'll take Gaz Baz's Control over his. Dihno is just a tab bit sloppy with the ball. But I see him as instrumental once we switch to 5 in the middle.
 
BobKowalski said:
Really enjoyed it. It was like having the old title winning City back. Pleased to see Lescott back in defence. Great to see Silva and Milner all over the pitch and with some great link up play. Silva was the difference in the way he popped up everywhere and sometimes at the same time. Much as we bang on about formations when you have Silva and to a lesser extent Milner here there and everywhere it all becomes a bit moot. I have a soft spot for Edin but Negrado is a must start alongside Sergio. Downside was Kompany and our defence still looks vulnerable oh and the officials were beyond useless but all in all a thoroughly enjoyable day.
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It was like having the 2011/12 Silva back today, he was excellent. For all our problems away from home defensively, the key attacking players such as Silva, Nasri, Yaya, Aguero and Negredo all seem to be in top form, we sort our other problems out and we're laughing.
 
"Hart is only one of 5 survivors from the hammering from Bayern Munich".

This is a league game, we played the European and Super cup champions in midweek, it is normal for a manager to plan ahead and tell players to put complete effort into one game telling them that they will not be playing 3 days later. However hard it is to believe I don't think that anyone on Wednesday was saving themselves for Everton. We have close to 2 players for every position and can afford to do this to a certain extent.

"In come Zabaletta, Lescott, Milner, Silva and Negredo"
Well that's not bad considering is it?

No mention that the Everton free kick early on was taken over 10 yards away from where the foul was committed and gave Everton an advantage, and the ball was rolling (Yes it was a foul by Aguero and if it would have been a foul to City my response would be 'so, you shouldn't have committed the foul). then Hart was 'scrambling', he didn't avert a dangerous situation?

Why would Hart "be disappointed", "No hiding place" he did well to get a hand on it, did all the right things. Tbf it was a well taken goal.

Nastasic challenge, yes a penalty. From the ref's positioning (he only gets one look) appears like a good hard shoulder. If I didn't have the benefit of a replay I wouldn't have been 100% giving a penalty if I was stood where the ref was. You have to be 100% to give the penalty, can see why no pen given but we were lucky.

Coleman impeded Negredo, not a goalscoring opportunity as Silva's ball a bit too long. Booking. Hard for ref to judge in real time so no decision was correct.

Coleman spun Zabaleta round, penalty and easier decision than Everton's claim. It looks more of a foul in the replay than in real time and both penalty claims look like penalties on the replay. (not less of a claim Mr Wilson).

"It would have been a very flattering 4" (4th goal)
No it wouldn't , yes you can't score every chance but there were a number of golden opportunities to add to the score. 7-2 would have been flattering but achievable, though I am happy with 3-1 considering that I was saying that we needed a 4th just before Lukaku ran out of steam and Nasri came on because I felt that they were capable of getting back into the game.
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Nice stat for Joe, 40.9% MCFC clean sheets, England 45.7%. It's all down to the defence ;-)

Some of us have to watch MOTD as we refuse to subscribe to the evil Murdoch empire.

Finally, who is this man Alan Shearer, the one who speaks so much sense (never thought I would type that).
 
chicagoblues said:
Got to give credit to Martinez ....his team played real football
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True, tougher and more skilful than his Wigan side but to be expected given the difference in resources. A good hard proper footballing side. Despite caution from the contributors to the 'opposition view' article Everton should do well as long as they don't have injuries to key players. They are a good side.
 
My observation from 20,00kms is that we lack a killer mentality. We seem to get into the lead and then think "game won, lets ease up' .
Perhaps the powers that be should introduce a bonus system for the number of goals we score in a game. Maybe that would stop the pissing around trying to find the perfect spot to have a crack.
Sergio had two easier chances than the great one he converted - is that why we love him?
 
What i can't understand is how, at some point in the second half one of the Everton defenders hammered the ball back to Howard, who picked the ball up and play went on.

How is this not a free kick? Negredo (I think) was going mental.

I know I had been drinking but I didn't think I was THAT pissed
 
Lucky Toma said:
west didsblue said:
Can't remember commentary as biased as that for a long time. Just rewound to check who it was. Steve fucking Wilson.
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Wasn't it Wilson who did the MOTD QPR game? It's been overlooked due to the eventual outcome but whoever commentated that day was absolutely revelling in our strife until Sergio struck. Watched it many times and always gets me how bizarre the commentary is - someone who seems to be actively enjoying our pain.
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It was Guy Mowbray, and he screamed the place down when Sergio scored, so I don't think an accusation of bias would stand up against him. Plus Mowbray was interviewed about the game later and waxed lyrical about THAT moment. Last night's commentator though was an utter bastard from start to finish
 
Listerfiend said:
What i can't understand is how, at some point in the second half one of the Everton defenders hammered the ball back to Howard, who picked the ball up and play went on.

How is this not a free kick? Negredo (I think) was going mental.

I know I had been drinking but I didn't think I was THAT pissed
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I remember that too.

Think it was Jagielka who played it back to him from the halfway line and he just picked it up.

It was so ridiculous I actually saw the funny side of it!
 
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